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>    1. Re: Cineralla crashes at end of rendering (Murray
> Strome)
>    2. Re: Cineralla crashes at end of rendering (bqz69)
>    3. Re: Cineralla crashes at end of rendering (James
> Youngquist)
>    4. Re: Cineralla crashes at end of rendering (Raffaella
> Traniello)
>    5. Re: Cineralla crashes at end of rendering (bqz69)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:50:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: Murray Strome <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cineralla crashes at end of rendering
> To: [email protected]
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 
> Raffaella,
> 
> Thank you for your reply. There still must be something
> that
> I am missing with respect to how to use Cinelerra.  I read
> the
> complete article at
> http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/
> but I am still confused.


 Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:04:40 +0100
> From: bqz69 <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cineralla crashes at end of rendering
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 

> Try OGG Theora/Vorbis - that's the only one that works
> for me
I tried several formats. At least OGG Theora/Vorbis doesn't die at the end of 
the rendering, however, the video is just black and there is no sound if I try 
to play the resulting file with mplayer, kaffeine or VLC player.

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> 
> Message: 3
> Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cineralla crashes at end of rendering
> From: James Youngquist <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:56:33 -0800
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 

> 
> Murray,
> 
> Another thing to try is to NOT render directly from
> Cinelerra to your
> final output format.  Instead try an intermediate format
> for both audio
> and video, then use ffmpeg or mencoder to encode those
> intermediate
> files into your final video.

OK, I am confused here.  I don't see where, within Cinelerra, to issue such a 
command.  The only video and audio options I see are Window AVI, Quicktime for 
LINUX. I can also just export the video as MPEG (*.m2v), but the result cannot 
be viewed in any of my players (one, I cannot remember which, says that it 
cannot determine the aspect ration). I am not terribly familiar with the 
scripts, and certainly know nothing about ffmpeg or mencoder. I have looked at 
the man pages, but cannot say I really understand them yet.

> For example, export your video as a YUV4MPEG stream with
> the following
> command,
> 
> ffmpeg -f yuv4mpeg -i - -y -threads 2 -vcodec huffyuv -f matroska %
> 
> and change the file extension to .mkv (extensions don't
> really matter,

I am guessing that the above is done in a terminal. But what was done first 
with Cinelerra to create the yuv4mpeg file? I assume that is the input for 
ffmpeg and that matroska is the output -- is that correct?
In other words, what format is chosen to create yu4mepg?
> just a convenience).  Beware, exporting as HUFFYUV creates
> LARGE files
> and you must specify framerate later to mencoder (with
> -ofps 30000/1001
> for 29.97 frames per second), but it works like a charm and
> then you can
> choose different qualities for encoding the final video (ie
> one
> resolution/codec for youtube and another for DVD from same
> source).
> 
> Export audio as a microsoft .wav and then convert to AAC,
> MP3, OGG,
> whatever.
> 
> Mux the video and audio together into your final formats. 
> Plenty of
> examples available online, just search for "mencoder
> mux video audio" or
> the like.
> 
> I'd caveat the above works using recent SVN version of
> cinelerra, ffmpeg
> and mencoder.  Its not too hard to install the latest SVN
> versions and
> the often increased compatibility and stability really pays
> off in the
> end.
> 
> - Jim
> 
>
> 
> Message: 4
> Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cineralla crashes at end of rendering
> From: Raffaella Traniello
> <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:29:05 +0100
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 
> Hi Murray!
> 
> > I am using Kubuntu (not Ubuntu) -- does this make any
> difference?
> 
> The system menus are different.
> Cinelerra herself is identical.
> So I'd say it shouldn't make any difference when
> using Cinelerra.
> 
> > I want to save/create a video file.  I assumed that I
> should do
> > Render,
> 
> Yes. To produce a video file is "Rendering".
> 
> > I happened to choose AVI (which is one of the options
> recommended in
> > the HOW TO).
> 
> It is not. 
> I don't recommend it (especially if with MPEG codec
> since it is prone to
> crashing just before the end of rendering) :-)
> 
> As bqz69 suggested, try OGG Theora/Vorbis. It is *not* the
> only one
> working, but surely it is the easiest to configure.
> 
> Note that to configure the format for rendering you must
> click on the
> wrench icon by the "Video" and "Audio"
> checkboxes.
> 
> > Is it possible that I am missing some component or
> some other software
> > that Cinelerra needs?
> 
> I don't think so. Even a properly installed Cinelerra
> has some formats
> working and some other formats not working.
> 
> 
> Good luck!
> Raffaella
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:32:40 +0100
> From: bqz69 <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cineralla crashes at end of rendering
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 

> Would you care to give some live examples about obove for
> us newbies - 
> thanks :-)
> 
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I would agree with bqz69 -- I really couldn't follow what Jim suggested.

Thanks for all the replies.

Murray



      

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