On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 06:37 -0800, Murray Strome wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Thanks for your patience, Jim. I think my first problem is doing the video 
> rendering in Cinelerra. I believe I have to do this successfully before I can 
> make use of any of the commands you have provided. See my questions embedded 
> in your reply below.


You're welcome, I know how frustrating Cinelerra can be starting out.
I'm far from being an expert with it, just happen to have found a
work-flow that works for me.

> 
> Murray
> 
> --- On Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009, James Youngquist <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > 
> > The the full "Use Pipe" line is:
> > ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -threads 4 -r 30000/1001
> > -vcodec huffyuv
> > -f matroska %
> 
> OK, I believe that the above command is issued in a terminal. Is that 
> correct? So where does the file "yuv4mpegpipe" come from? Somewhere in the 
> documentation:

That will be the command from within Cinelerra, see below.

> 
>  http://cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_20.html
> 
> I see "Audio and video are rendered separately and combined later in a 
> procedure external to Cinelerra.
> Audio is rendered into .ac3, and video is rendered into a yuv4mpeg stream 
> which is piped through either mpeg2enc or ffmpeg into a .m2v file."
> 
> However, "yuv4mepg" is not listed under my options when I click on "Render".
> 
> I am using "cinelerra-4-repack" version 20080819 with Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE3) 
> AMD64 version on a system using an AMD Athlon 64bit  dual core processor.

I had attached a screen shot, maybe it wasn't allowed through.  I'm
emailing a copy directly to you (or anyone else who wants it).  The
pertinent choice for render should be "YUV4MPEG Stream".  I don't know
why it wouldn't be available unless the version you're using didn't have
it compiled in...  In which case you could try compiling yourself, a
process that doesn't take too long.

> 
> > Render audio as Microsoft WAV.  Must render audio and video
> > separately.
> > 
> > So supposing you render to MyVideo.mkv and MyAudio.wav,
> 
> I can render the Audio to MyAudio.wav with no problem. But what option do I 
> use to render the video to MyVideo.mkv?  The only choices that appear 
> relevant on my list are" .avi (which crashes), .mov (Quicktime), .m2v (MPEG) 
> and .ogg, none of which are playable in any of my viewers.
> 
> > create the final
> > video using ffmpeg or mencoder (or whatever) from command
> > line).
> > 
> > For example, the following commands encode to MPEG2
> > suitable for DVDs
> > (assuming MyFile.mkv is 720x480).  See the mplayer
> > documentation from
> > their website on how to use other codecs.  Google
> > "aften" for where to
> > download it; it's a decent AC3 encoder though you can
> > use mencoder too.
> > Pay attention to the file extensions...
> > 
> > PASS 1 
> > 
> > mencoder MyVideo.mkv \
> > -ovc lavc \
> > -lavcopts
> > threads=4:vcodec=mpeg2video:aspect=16/9:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxr
> > ate=8000:vbitrate=6000:keyint=15:vstrict=0:trell:mbd=2:precmp=2:subcmp=2:cmp=2:d
> > ia=-10:predia=-10:cbp:mv0:dc=10:vstrict=0:vpass=1 \
> > -noskip -mc 0 \
> > -o /dev/null
> > 
> > 
> > PASS 2 
> > 
> > mencoder MyVideo.mkv \
> > -ovc lavc \
> > -lavcopts
> > threads=4:vcodec=mpeg2video:aspect=16/9:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxr
> > ate=8000:vbitrate=6000:keyint=15:vstrict=0:trell:mbd=2:precmp=2:subcmp=2:cmp=2:d
> > ia=4:predia=4:cbp:mv0:dc=10:vstrict=0:vpass=2 \
> > -noskip -mc 0 \
> > -of mpeg -ofps 30000/1001 \
> > -mpegopts format=dvd:tsaf:vaspect=16/9 \
> > -o MyVideo.mpg
> > 
> > ffmpeg -i MyVideo.mpg -an -vcodec copy -y MyVideo.m2v
> > 
> > 
> > Create AC3 
> > 
> > aften MyAudio.wav MyAudio.ac3
> >

That above 4 steps (pass1, pass2, ffmpeg and create ac3) are all done
external to Cinelerra.

> 
> Why not just render the audio to ac3 in the first place? It is one of the 
> options listed under the Render menu.

I had trouble with poor quality AC3 being created by Cinelerra directly.

- Jim

>  
> > 
> > Create DVD compliant MPEG2 
> > 
> > mpleg -f 8 MyVideo.m2v MyAudio.ac3 -o MyVideo.dvd.mpg
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, a lot of steps it seems.  But the benefit is you
> > still have the
> > original pristine MyVideo.mkv and MyAudio.wav unencumbered
> > with
> > compression artifacts that can be reencoded into any
> > formats needed.
> > Nobody ever said video editing was for the small
> > hard-drives!  Also, you
> > can stick the above commands into a shell script (another
> > topic
> > entirely) to streamline the process.
> > 
> > -Jim
> 
> 
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