You know Scott,
I've think I've reached that point.  I'm tired of upgrading only to
spend time figuring out all the things that got broke in the latest
distro.  Not to mention one very irritating and consistent bug in
cinelerra - this damn popping noise that develops about half way through
an hour long video I'm editing.  

And its not every video mind you.  I would say about 80 percent of the
time I never hear it.  However when I convert a MPEG4 to DV using
ffmpeg, about a half hour to 45 minutes into the video (while editing in
cinelerra) it's there annoying as hell!  HOWEVER, IF I PLAY THE ORIGINAL
CONVERTED VIDEO IN MPLAYER -- NO POPPING!  THE RENDERED VIDEO FROM
CINELERRA -- ITS THERE.

As far as I can tell, it's somewhat related to ffmpeg, however when I
play the input video I'm editing with cinelerra in Mplayer, its fine.
However in Cinelerra I hear what sounds like static pops.  In the final
rendered product I hear the popping noise both in Cinelerra and Mplayer.
Adjusting the sampling rate to 44100 seems to help but does not
eliminate the popping noises.  This bug is maddening as hell as it is
the same bug I encountered a year ago.

A friend and I produce video work for a local cable access show that
both of us co-host, and my friend keeps reminding me to just switch to
windows tool set and be done with it.  He keeps painfully reminding me
of all of the time I spend and the relative "poor" quality product I
produce.  I spend valuable time just trying to find work a-rounds rather
than perfecting video editing and production skills.  After all I keep
fighting these damn little bugs that were supposed to be taken care of
over a year ago.

Therefore I've just about ran out of patience with cinelerra.  Even
though I don't get paid to produce video work, the aggravation, marginal
quality of work produced, and time wasted to find work a-rounds has
finally gotten to me.  I think its time to save up for a good Mac and
final cut pro and be done with it!

If anyone has any idea what the hell is causing this damn popping noise,
I'd love to find out and solve this damn thing once and for all.  Part
of me doesn't want to "throw away" all this time I've invested.  You
know the psychology of previous investment we wrestle with.  

Here is the version of Cinelerra I'm using:

Cinelerra 2.1CV  2.1 SVN svn20080514 RPMFusion For
Fedora/EPEL .fc9.kwizart (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
External ffmpeg
Compiled on Thu May 15 17:28:19 EDT 2008

Thanks for any help folks,

Jeff Gerritsen.

On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 10:54 -0400, Scott C. Frase wrote:
> Folks,
> I will chime in here to simply say that Cinelerra is buggy in a consistent 
> way.  In other words, if you have the time and energy to figure out what 
> works and what doesn't work, then you can base a workflow around 
> that.  But that effort is a huge time sink.
> 
> It doesn't get any better when you upgrade your system, because what once 
> worked in a previous distro will break in your new distro.  So, you spend 
> oodles of time figuring out how to fix it.
> 
> It takes a certain kind of person who relishes the constant challenges of 
> Cinelerra and Linux to power through these difficulties.  Not everyone's 
> cup of tea for sure, but you can get usable content out of Cinelerra if 
> you know what works and what doesn't.  Otherwise, save your valuable time 
> and effort, buy a dual quad core Mac with Final Cut Pro/Avid/yada yada 
> yada and be happy that everything works out of the box.
> 
> scott
> 
> http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com
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