Glen, Thanks again. Really, I didn't mean to bash, really just trying to understand.
In fact your answer to Octavio sort of clarified the issue even further. Cheers, Nicola > Subject: RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:41:21 -0700 > > Hi Again, > > Well I'm not a lawyer either so we have something in common! > > I've been distributing AV Linux like this since 2007 and to be honest > never have had this come up, I will have to scour the fine print a little > closer but I was under the impression that any derived work could be > licensed outside of the GPL provided the source code of the derived work > was made available upon request. The 'source code' is the ISO image which > is freely available for anyone to download and poke through (that's the > idea really) and of course the GPL content of Debian has it's source code > freely available as well. Regardless the icluded closed source content > falls outside of the GPL and there is no law forbidding me to distribute > it on an ISO of my making providing I have the permission of the > developers which I do. > > If it's the semantics of the term 'non-GPL' that bothers you it is > intended to be interpreted as 'outside of the GPL' not 'against the GPL' > if that makes any difference > > Regards, _GLEN > > > > > Glen, > > > > Thanks for the clarifications. Although I am not a lawyer, I have doubts > > about the fact that the license in AV linux can be changed at the > > developer's convenience, since it still is derived work. The GPL > > specifically says that derived work qualifies for the GPL license itself. > > LGPL is more relaxed in these terms. But the fact that AV linux is > > distributed with a non GPL license, while most of its components are, it > > looks to me as a potential violation of the license itself. > > > > Again, I am not a lawyer, and I am just trying to understand the > > situation. > > > > Thanks again, > > Nicola > > > > > > > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license > >> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:41:12 -0700 > >> > >> Hi fellow CinCV'ers > >> > >> I recently was browsing the mail archives here and noticed some concern > >> over the AV Linux 5.0 release announcement I posted here in June. My > >> sincere apologies for not replying, at the time I was not a Cinelerra > >> mailing list subscriber so any replies to my announcement didn't come > >> back > >> to me. > >> > >> Hopefully I can clarify what 'non-GPL' means in reference to AV Linux > >> for > >> those on the list who care to know... > >> > >> AV Linux is a multimedia focused distro and contains both excellent > >> Open-Source programs and also Commercial Linux Audio Plugins and > >> Sequencers that are presented as demos. I personally am not a very > >> political Linux user and enjoy both open and closed Linux software so I > >> made arrangements with each individual developer/vendor of the > >> commercial > >> applications to include the demo versions in AV Linux. > >> > >> The terms of the demo licenses were that I could distribute them in AV > >> Linux however someone could not re-distribute AV Linux as-is without > >> violating those licenses. This is why AV Linux is non-GPL because it > >> can't > >> be redistributed as-is. However AV Linux with all the commercial demos > >> removed is simply a heavily tweaked and customized Debian Squeeze and > >> would be GPL like the software it contains. > >> > >> I am a huge fan of Cinelerra and would very much like to use my AV Linux > >> distribution to promote and further it's use as well as it's > >> contemporaries. I take a personal interest in it and have recently done > >> a > >> lot of behind the scenes configuration work to make easier for new users > >> in the next AV Linux release. I sincerely hope that this post clears up > >> any confusion or concern about my intentions. > >> > >> Best Regards, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux Maintainer > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Cinelerra mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cinelerra mailing list > [email protected] > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
