> > On 10/07/2011 10:52 PM, Edouard Chalaron wrote: > > ??????? Gosh Einar, I am sorry but you may want to > look a little bit > > further than the lens of your ipod camera.... > Cinelerra would become > > some sort of Kino just designed for camcorders and > highy compressed > > videos. Why don't just remove importing file > sequences, RGB float etc > > since you are willing to shoot yourself in the foot ? > > Calm down. :-)
Well, I am sorry if my rant was felt like an attack, but it is difficult to remain calm. It looks like it is one man decision and not even the possibility to discuss the consequences. > Capture functions in Cinelerra are pretty unstable. In > particular they > seem to depend on hardware. For some people they work > perfectly (a > minority it seems) for others they are really unusable. Already the /dev/v4l works wonder and yet it has been decided to remove the support for it... or am I wrong ? I use it everyday without a single problem, moreover it is interfaced with an external soft. I do import all different format and so far 0% error. So is unstable or not used properly ? Not being on top of Linux dev I just wonder if people are really trying. > To have a very buggy feature is not good, so we are > brainstorming on > possible solutions. Fix he feature if it is useful (that's > an expensive > solution), remove it if it is un-used (cheaper solution). To me it appears not so buggy.... so what am I doing wrong ? :-) > That's the reason behind Einar's question: > >> How much people use it (were able to find working > settings)? For > >> what purpose they use it? > > Your reply (below) is all we need: > > controlling imports or scans (like I do) with a > vectorscope I am > > starting a hack of the invert plugin to work on > scanned negative > > films. This is what it can be used for. > > It is very useful also to know Cinelerra does a good job. > What it does is (among others) to help to calibrate a white light for film scan : before recording select a broad range and assign the live video plugin and a videoscope, may be an histogram too for good measures. Start recording listening on /dev/video1 if your camera is streaming on /dev/video0 Look athe compositor and the videoscope, see what you have, muck around with the histogram to get what you want. Or keep data as a reference for your lighting calibration purpose. I think for people scanning films or working on grabbing frames for animation purpose it is a fantastic tool. Moreover, once you start your recording you can choose almost whatever format you want. OpenEXR does not seem to work I must admit. but TIFF file sequence and quicktime RGB uncompressed is top notch. Cinelerra can go much further than video clips with titles and sequences etc ... it has also some great possibilities of grading and calibration despite some lack of tools. I was talking of Openshot... well no I won't for now... I am just afraid Cinelerra is going to turn like that. I tried it yesterday and it is nowhere close to Cinelerra. > > There is no need to remind you we are all volunteers > helping each other > making CinelerraCV the best NLE ever. You know it already. > :-) I know that. I'll try to provide with what I can but that won't be development from me. I am not a coder. Clearly.. However I am willing to get this plugin for negative films to work (by patching "invert" or creating a new one). I have someone to work on it this week. I hope we will get to the bottom of the story and forward the patch to you guys soon. If that works : one would be able to calibrate a color scanner for negative films and actually control on the fly. > Thanks for believing so much in Cinelerra. :-) I trust in the obvious, there has been so much effort put into that that the idea of seeing it amputated from a major feature freaks the mickey out of me. Since we are here : Cinelerra is like italian motorbikes, nothing beats them as long as you know how to use them ! Cheers E _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
