-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 18/03/12 19:38, [email protected] wrote: > 1. Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio (Miroslav Rovis) > PulseAudio installed and working (but not for Cinelerra). > Examples of (mostly working fine: vlc and mplayer) follow. [snip]
I have noticed that my message arrived mangled. Pls. accept my apologies, but it wasn't up to me. The regime in my country has it with dissidents like me. You can see how I post on forums.gentoo.org where they have no influence. I am not so ignorant as one would be led to believe. I will try to repair the message. I will do my best. Some things, like the PGP signature's "BEGIN PGP " etc. containing dashes, that were converted, duing delivery, by third party into something unintelligible, I don't know how to avoid being mangled again... But you can see on http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mencoder-users/ if you search for "Miroslav Rovis" how it shows just fine, when not mangled maliciously. Really sorry! If this try fails as miserably as the previous, pls. look up later at forums.gentoo.org . I will send just a link to where I will post normally viewable message. Follows my final attempt with the message. Thank you! Hi everyone! I am in doubt whether to write to this list, or to pulseaudio list. But I thought there might be either some specific workaround that we hopefully will get to, or plain explanations that will later be useful to other Cinelerra users, or even maybe some bugs still there in Cinelerra, just maybe... So I think this is the place. My question will be: how to get Cinelerra audio playback to work, and here follows the situation. PulseAudio installed and working (but not for Cinelerra). Examples of (mostly working fine: vlc and mplayer) follow. I thought hard whether to pastebin the pacmd list-sink-inputs and list-source-outputs, and I decided they're just within limits for a mail text attachment. I hope readers won't find them excessive, but useful. ### vlc ### ########### Pls. view: pulseaudio_vlc_OK I also fired up the pavucontrol GUI, during which I noticed on my konsole in the output: "DEBUG: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and thus handled by the Event widget" But I am unsure if that helps diagnose the problem, pls. see later that the same message also appears during cinelerramutedplayback in question... In the pavucontrol GUI, the tabs: "Playback" and "Output Devices" have a nicepulsating volume indicatoraccording-to-current-playback-volume. Because all is well with vlc and pulseaudio interaction. ### mplayer ### ############### Pls. view: pulseaudio_mplayer_OK I fired up the pavucontrol GUI again (or just left it running), during which I noticed on my konsole in the output: Even though I noticed (pavucontrol): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager extension: No such extension" I don't think that mattered much, because the playback of different files at first was just fine. That error, just as the previous one above, the one during vlc playback, show during cinelerra playback at different times as well. The mplayer playback of different files was, at first fine, I was saying. Because I did notice later, but after cinelerra muted playback, that some merely audio files ("no video"), didn't play, but instead got stuck, like this: Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders libavcodec version 53.60.100 (external) AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 111.6 kbit/7.27% (ratio: 13949->192000) Selected audio codec: [ffaac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio)) ========================================================================== AO: [pulse] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... A: 0.0 (00.0) of 892.8 (14:52.7) ??,?% Audio device got stuck! A: 0.2 (00.1) of 892.8 (14:52.7) 0.3% Audio device got stuck! A: 0.3 (00.3) of 892.8 (14:52.7) 0.3% Audio device got stuck! A: 0.5 (00.5) of 892.8 (14:52.7) 0.4% Audio device got stuck! A: 0.7 (00.6) of 892.8 (14:52.7) 0.4% Audio device got stuck! But I was able to get it in a while, and I have a hunch that it was only temporarily confused by the state induced by cinelerra muted playback. ### cinelerra ### ################# Pls. view: pulseaudio_cinelerra_BAD Sure enough, I fired up the pavucontrol GUI just the same, and I don't know if this error is much indicative of anything: (pavucontrol): DEBUG: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and thus handled by the Event widget or the other: (pavucontrol): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager extension: No such extension" Because, they both showed with vlc and mplayer, while all was fine with their playback. In the pavucontrol GUI, the tabs: Playback and Output Devices there is no pulsating volume indicator whatsoever. So. where do I go from here? And how do I get to hear what cinelerra is playing? Any advice or insight of advanced and experienced users and esp. Cinelerra and all Open Source still rather free (even with all the *lesser* licences) wizards and saviors, will be appreciated! Miroslav Rovis [email protected] [email protected] 01 660 2633 091 266 0202 http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr http://www.exDeo.com http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/ http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2 nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah: http://www.youtube.com/user/prosvjednikkrcmarek Ima nešto i ovdje: http://vimeo.com/user9621785 ####################################################### pulseaudio_vlc_OK $ pacmd Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information. >>> list-sink-inputs 1 sink input(s) available. index: 11 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: VARIABLE_RATE START_CORKED state: RUNNING sink: 0 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> volume: 0: 67% 1: 67% 0: -10.57 dB 1: -10.57 dB balance 0.00 muted: no current latency: 434.64 ms requested latency: 16.00 ms sample spec: s16le 2ch 48000Hz channel map: front-left,front-right Stereo resample method: speex-float-3 module: 8 client: 19 <VLC media player> properties: media.name = "audio stream" application.name = "VLC media player" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.VideoLAN.VLC" application.version = "2.0.0" application.icon_name = "vlc" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" application.process.id = "6045" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" application.process.binary = "vlc" window.x11.display = ":0" module-stream-restore.id = "sink-input-by-application-id:org.VideoLAN.VLC" >>> list-source-outputs 4 source outputs(s) available. index: 0 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 0 <alsa_input.pci-0000_05_15.1.analog-stereo> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 2 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4225" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 1 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 30.20 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 2 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4225" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 2 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 2 <alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 2 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4225" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 4 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 30.23 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 2 <PulseAudio Volume Control> direct on input: 11 properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4225" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" ####################################################### pulseaudio_mplayer_OK $ pacmd Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information. >>> list-sink-inputs 1 sink input(s) available. index: 16 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: state: RUNNING sink: 0 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> volume: 0: 69% 1: 69% 0: -9.62 dB 1: -9.62 dB balance 0.00 muted: no current latency: 238.04 ms requested latency: 210.00 ms sample spec: s16le 2ch 48000Hz channel map: front-left,front-right Stereo resample method: speex-float-3 module: 8 client: 26 <MPlayer> properties: media.name = "audio stream" application.name = "MPlayer" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.process.id = "17925" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "mplayer" application.language = "C" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "sink-input-by-application-name:MPlayer" >>> list-source-outputs 4 source outputs(s) available. index: 9 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 0 <alsa_input.pci-0000_05_15.1.analog-stereo> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 56.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 24 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "17738" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 10 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 26.03 ms requested latency: 56.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 24 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "17738" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 11 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 2 <alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 46.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 24 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "17738" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 13 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 26.67 ms requested latency: 56.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 24 <PulseAudio Volume Control> direct on input: 16 properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "17738" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":0" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332087765.470492-1888458172" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" ####################################################### pulseaudio_cinelerra_BAD $ pacmd Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information. >>> list-sink-inputs 2 sink input(s) available. index: 0 driver: <module-combine-sink.c> flags: VARIABLE_RATE DONT_MOVE NO_CREATE_SUSPEND state: DRAINED sink: 0 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> volume: 0: 100% 1: 100% 0: 0.00 dB 1: 0.00 dB balance 0.00 muted: no current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 200.00 ms sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz channel map: front-left,front-right Stereo resample method: trivial module: 11 properties: media.name = "Simultaneous output on Internal Audio Analog Stereo" media.role = "filter" module-stream-restore.id = "sink-input-by-media-role:filter" index: 6 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: state: RUNNING sink: 0 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> volume: 0: 82% 1: 82% 0: -5.02 dB 1: -5.02 dB balance 0.00 muted: no current latency: 5440.94 ms requested latency: 36.00 ms sample spec: s16le 2ch 48000Hz channel map: front-left,front-right Stereo resample method: speex-float-3 module: 8 client: 27 <ALSA plug-in [cinelerra]> properties: media.name = "ALSA Playback" application.name = "ALSA plug-in [cinelerra]" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.process.id = "4317" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "cinelerra" application.language = "C" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" application.icon_name = "cinelerra" module-stream-restore.id = "sink-input-by-application-name:ALSA plug-in [cinelerra]" >>> list-source-outputs 6 source outputs(s) available. index: 6 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 0 <alsa_input.pci-0000_05_15.1.analog-stereo> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 5 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4420" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 7 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 46.35 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 5 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4420" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 8 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 2 <alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 5 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4420" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 9 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 3 <combined.monitor> current latency: 0.00 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 5 <PulseAudio Volume Control> properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4420" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 10 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 46.39 ms requested latency: 20.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 5 <PulseAudio Volume Control> direct on input: 0 properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4420" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" index: 14 driver: <protocol-native.c> flags: DONT_MOVE state: RUNNING source: 1 <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1d.0.analog-stereo.monitor> current latency: 46.35 ms requested latency: 36.00 ms sample spec: float32le 1ch 25Hz channel map: mono Mono resample method: peaks owner module: 8 client: 5 <PulseAudio Volume Control> direct on input: 6 properties: media.name = "Peak detect" application.name = "PulseAudio Volume Control" native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client" native-protocol.version = "23" application.id = "org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" application.icon_name = "audio-card" application.version = "1.0" application.process.id = "4420" application.process.user = "miro" application.process.host = "at8-g250-c" application.process.binary = "pavucontrol" application.language = "en_GB.UTF-8" window.x11.display = ":1" application.process.machine_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b" application.process.session_id = "f92a87b0a2a6d303cd95bf130000001b-1332085139.757923-1839596469" module-stream-restore.id = "source-output-by-application-id:org.PulseAudio.pavucontrol" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9mN8QACgkQ5NaGZVDan0qXegCfVrEggnd7y/oUSo3Oo0PNnYzb qLoAn2/WaEvWzb75BbrcXWGWWZuvi8Ie =DYjk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
