Hello Mettavihari,

I find it very interesting to learn that you can operate 2 television stations and 16 editing stations with Cinelerra installation in a professional context, it is impressive.

This confirms what I anticipated; Pushing its use a bit, Cinelerra would achieve a level of quality that meets the parameters of professional productions.

Although I'm still in my early learning in Cinelerra, I discovered that I like it a lot.

But if I can not solve the problems of desynchronization which he suffers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y72kpaIO2IY&list=FLh2m4XNEHyJxq_VPAOTbdUQ&index=1), I will change, I will have no choice... I lost too much time in resynchronization...

If I'm not mistaken, I believe that you are running in Sri Lanka PAL at 25 frames / second (50i). But here in Quebec all our video runs at 29.97 frames / second (60i) in NTSC for SD, but more especially now in HD (60i). All major TV stations here, now broadcasting in HD.

So Cinelerra seems to have a major problem to maintain synchronization with the video frame rate at 29.97 frames / sec which correspond to standard NTSC (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/PAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg) If I can not find a solution to this problem which seems very serious... for editing software, I will change the application, it's sad but true.

See this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13910.html

Pierre



Le 2013-01-26 06:56, Bhikkhu Mettavihari a écrit :
Hi from Sri Lanka

I am Mettavihari here and just to give you a bit of confidence I like to say that I have been using Cinelerra for the last 6 years and I am wondering how ever to shift over to another software like kdenlive. It just does not look the way I am used to now.

I presently run 2 Television Channels using Cinelerra on 16 work stations.

But I must say that this field is always changing.
For years in the past and for years to go we will be broadcasting in SD format. Now many places in the world are switching over to HD so I also have a learning curve to go.
The next channel that I have bought equipment for is planned for HD.
This will be all new for me.

For me it is partly a religious decision to work with Linux and partly an economic decision. But let me make it clear that I could not afford the cost of software on 16 editing benches.

I have produced videos for some of the local Channels and I always find that their machines has been full of viruses when I go to the offices. This is one thing that we are free of in Linux.

Good luck with your work.
Mettavihari

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Pierre <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    Hello Murray,

    Thank you for the welcome.

    I do not know "Pinnacle Studio" and in fact, until recently did
    not know any editing software ... Because it is not me who
    performed my editing before. As a director I always worked with
    professional editors and it is they who knew the secrets of these
    techniques and art.

    But now that I decided to sit in the chair as the editor and learn
    the ropes, I decided to focus on free software (such as
    Cinelerra). I is not a religion ... so if I must use proprietary
    software, I will adjust ... but I want to try to focus on the free
    option first.

    Cinelerra does seem would be the most professional software for
    Linux and this is why I chose it. I have the intension to learn to
    master it and discover all possibilities, provided of course, that
    I can solve the problem of desynchronization that afflicts him and
    that his non ability to manage and mantain timecode that my camera
    records (HVR-Z1U) does not become too big a problem for my editing
    work.

    But if I had to finally abandon Cinelerra, I probably start by
    exploring "Lightworks" which should soon have a version for Linux.

    I'm pretty confident that Cinelerra or otherwise ... Lightworks
    are professional editing software suitable for my needs and
    expectations. But I have a concern in terms of special effects
    software, I doubt that there is now an alternative, free and easy,
    to "Adobe After Effects". There may be "Blender", but his learning
    seems really complex for my needs ...

    Regarding ffmpeg, it is out of the question for me to use the
    command line... especially since there are several good gui to
    make it more user-friendly ... One of them is "EKD"
    (http://ekd.tuxfamily.org/index.php/Accueil/AccueilEnglish) which
    is very versatile, especially in its SVN form (development).

    Pierre


    Le 2013-01-24 16:27, Murray Strome a écrit :
    Bonjour Pierre,

    Although I have been following the list for quite some time, I
    feel like a complete novice. I hope to follow along with what you
    learn, and how you do things so that I might be able to migrate
    completely from Windows to LINUX. Cinelerra appears to have all
    the power that is required, but I am still baffled by lots of
    things. Although not Cinelerra itself, I have found that (even
    though it is command line) I can do lots of good things with
    ffmpeg, and indeed, I need it to merge the audio and video
    streams from Cinelerra outputs.

    I have been using Pinnacle Studio for years to do my video
    editing in Windows. It requires quite a paradigm shift to go from
    it to Cinelerra. From what I have seen of the Adobe video
    editors, I think it would be less of a learning curve than it is
    to move from Pinnacle. The general overall look and feel of
    Cinelerra looks a LOT like the Adobe editors.

    In my opinion, the very best feature of the Pinnacle (bought out
    by Avid a few years ago, and now owned by Corel) is the ease of
    navigating in the time line. I am not sure how they have done it,
    but it is so fast and easy to move the cursor to within a couple
    of frames of the place I want to do a cut, so that it takes only
    a few more seconds to adjust frame by frame to the exact spot. I
    have tried many, many video editing software packages and have
    never found one as good as Pinnacle.

    That said, Cinelerra definitely has a lot more power -- I just
    haven't really succeeded in learning how to use it yet.

    I wish you good luck in becoming an expert with it, and I hope I
    may be able to follow your journey to success so that I can also
    eventually become more adept at using this.

    Murray
    PS despite a few good things about the Pinnacle products, there
    support has deteriorated to the point where it is virtually
    useless!  MS

    PPS I am STRICTLY an amateur, and only do video work for the
    enjoyment of my family and friends.

    --- On *Wed, 1/23/13, Pierre /<[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]>/* wrote:


        From: Pierre <[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: [CinCV] I'll introduce myself...
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Received: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 8:29 AM

        Hello,

        As I'm new on your list I'll introduce myself, my name is
        Pierre Paiement and I live in Quebec (Canada).

        Video editing is all new to me, I'm a beginner... I mean...
        running the installation on my own is all new to me... I was
        a professional independent director in television for many
        years, but I always worked with professional editors.

        I recently started several small projects for artists or
        local non-profit organizations. I've shot with my own camera
        (HVR-Z1U) and I intend, as far as possible, to make all the
        post-production with free software.

        Even if I produced with limited resources, I hope to reach
        video documents of professional quality that will not betray
        their humble origins... I put in the efforts, for the rest
        we'll see ...

        I use Linux for several years and for 12 months it has become
        my almost exclusive OS. But my knowledge of Linux (Ubuntu) is
        limited; I'm just a user not a programmer, the command line
        is not my preferred medium of expression, and without a gui I
        feel like a DOP without his lightmeter...

        I have a lot of fun to discover Linux and Cinelerra... also,
        many things to learn.

        I'm already involved in one of your current discussion:
        "[CinCV] synchronization problem in editing"
        http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13895.html.
        I am the "
        
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13895.html.Iamthe>Pierre"
        for which Haldun ALTAN kindly forward the request for help,
        as I could not get on your list.

        Over the exchange I will intervene in the course of this
        ongoing discussion and perhaps in other eventually...

        Pierre



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