The numbers/reasons given are for software platforms.

This is the default output from a 7200:

7200#sh ip cache flow | i timeout
  Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
  Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds


On the 6500, the NDE is a different story, but according to Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SXF/native/configuration/guide/nde.html#wp1140433

---------------------
NDE packets go to the external data collector either when the number of recently expired flows reaches a predetermined maximum or after:

.30 seconds for version 5 export.
.10 seconds for version 9 export.
---------------------

I wish it was more clear...

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Tassos

Phil Mayers wrote on 4/6/2008 4:06 μμ:
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
A flow is exported when :

1) it is inactive for a specific time (default 15 secs)*

I don't think that's correct. I think the default is 300 seconds.

2) it is active and has lasted longer than a specific time (default 30 mins)*

Sure; that's not this

3) a TCP flag (FIN/RST?) is received, indicating that the flow is terminated

Really? Are you certain about that? I was under the impression that the PFC did not act on TCP flags.


(*) 6500 uses different timers, if i remember right..

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Tassos

Phil Mayers wrote on 4/6/2008 3:42 μμ:
Ben Hicks wrote:
Forgive me if I'm missing something but you are looking at the actual end times of the TCP flows, not the exports (which happen continuously in chunks anyway). The flows will be reported as they end. So a 30 second connection will be reported once its finished, not at the end of the 5 minute period.

That was not my understanding. My understanding was that the flow start and end times were of the first and last packets seen, and that a flow should be exported when:

 now - last_packet >= 300 seconds

...with default aging timers.

So, if we have 3 packets:

 12:35:00
 12:36:00
 12:37:00

...the flow should be exported at ~12:42 i.e. 300 seconds after the last packet.


Many thanks,

Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Phil Mayers
Sent: Wed 04/06/2008 12:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging "prematurely"

All,

We use nfdump/nfsen to gather our flows. The "nfcap" daemon writes the
flows to 5-minute-window files, the filename being the *start* of the
5-minute window.

If I look at e.g. nfcapd.200806041235 I see the following distribution
of flow *end* times:

     732 2008-06-04 12:29
   16492 2008-06-04 12:30
   19769 2008-06-04 12:31
   22704 2008-06-04 12:32
   21701 2008-06-04 12:33
   91460 2008-06-04 12:34
  148540 2008-06-04 12:35
  153881 2008-06-04 12:36
  177542 2008-06-04 12:37
  184133 2008-06-04 12:38
  143340 2008-06-04 12:39

Given that we are running with the default aging parameters:

              enable timeout  packet threshold
              ------ -------  ----------------
normal aging true       300        N/A
fast aging   false      32         100
long aging   true       1920       N/A

...I'm puzzled; surely during the window 12:35:00 -> 12:39:59 we should
only ever receive flows with end time up to 12:35:00 (plus or minus a
few tens of seconds, depending on the aging)

Why is the router exporting flows which have been inactive for "only" ~1
minute?

The box isn't busy with regards netflow (considering we have fast aging
disabled and lot of 1-packet flows) so I don't think that's the cause.

TCAM utilization:       Module       Created      Failed       %Used
                         1              72227           0         55%
                         2              65312           0         49%
                         5                 75           0          0%
                         6                 70           0          0%
                         8              71824           0         54%
                         9              37572           0         28%
ICAM utilization:       Module       Created      Failed       %Used
                         1                  1           0          0%
                         2                  3           0          2%
                         5                  0           0          0%
                         6                  0           0          0%
                         8                  4           0          3%
                         9                  0           0          0%

        Flowmasks:   Mask#   Type        Features
               IPv4:     0   reserved    none
               IPv4:     1   Intf FulFM_GUARDIAN
               IPv4:     2   unused      none
               IPv4:     3   reserved    none

               IPv6:     0   reserved    none
               IPv6:     1   unused      none
               IPv6:     2   unused      none
               IPv6:     3   reserved    none
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