-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 almog ohayon wrote: | Hi everyone, | I have couple of questions regarding the real CCIE lab exam : | 1. how similar the real exam is to Internetworkexpert Labs(of course version | 4) ? and to ipexpert labs ?? | 2. i did most of the version 4 labs and there are inconsistent issues for me | : | - when to use bgp next-hop-self ?? (i assume that when we move from | ebgp to ibgp we need it ?!) | - when to use redistribute connected ?? example ?? | | That's it .. | _______________________________________________ | cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] | https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp | archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
First, I want to say sorry for the length of this response... I know that this is the NSP-list, not a CCIE Cert list, and that this is really off-topic, but I have to respond. 1. Similarities - I think they all require that you know how to program a router, how to use routing and routed protocols, how to manage IOS, an understanding of L2 protocols, etc... please see: http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/rs/wr_exam_blueprint_v3.html As for differences; well, the real thing costs a lot of money and if you pass it, you get this nice piece of paper with your name and a number on it... the practice sites don't get you that. 2. You need to use commands like bgp next-hop-self when it's appropriate, and then make sure that you don't use it when it's not appropriate. You'll either know when to use them when you get there or you won't. Seriously though... there are no shortcuts. You need to know when and when not to use valid approaches to solve the requirements you receive in the lab (yes, non-valid approaches are fair-game). It's important to know the technologies well enough to understand the implications of specific commands used both appropriately and inappropriately because you might need to use them in the wrong way to solve a requirement. You should also be able to quote verbatim from books like TCP/IP Routing Volume 1 & 2, Internet Routing Architectures, and the like. I would not count on test-prep sites, brain-dumps, and the like. Those sites might give you the edge on the qualification-exam, and give you a good idea what "kinds" of things might be asked on the test, but they're not going to get you where you need to be with regards to knowledge about the protocols, the technologies, and Cisco products, that are really required to pass the test. This is the reason so many people don't pass... they think there's a finite list of things that can be asked and that you can memorize your way through to passing. That's a bad assumption because while the list of technologies that are present on the test is finite, the variation on implementation is limitless. The only path to success is to really understand what bgp next-hop-self is for to begin with an why it's important. I think, for a while at least, Cisco lost their way with regards to what was important, regarding the CCIE... for instance, I can remember taking the qualification-exam for my recert in 2006, and it seemed like there were a lot of questions about Cisco-specific technologies and non-essential esoteric features that didn't really have anything to do with real technologies, and those questions were written to obfuscate what they were really asking for just in an effort to make them harder to answer. It felt lame. I went back last month and re-certified again, and I was shocked by just how different the test was than any other time I had taken it (this was my 4th recert-cycle). The test seemed very focused on routing technologies, protocols, and standards... I was really pleased because the test felt relevant for the first time in a while. Now... there's a significant amount of CCIEs that lurk on this list, but that doesn't make them any smarter than a lot of other people who regularly post (for years now) on this list that don't have the cert. I am never surprised by the depth of knowledge certain people regularly exhibit on some of the most esoteric topics and they haven't bothered to take the test. They don't need those letters on their sigs to prove what they know and they don't need to pass the lab to prove their worth; they are qualified experts by experience. Scott - -- Scott A. Keoseyan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Homepage : http://www.labyrinth.org/homepages/scott Blogpage : http://www.labyrinth.org/wp1 PGP Keys : http://www.labyrinth.org/homepages/scott/pgp.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIXWFmA7TpMPAlvEcRAu+nAKCYLf0dY1ez18TzBCB411TrOmmCWACbBHAN 9A/8w7kw27mZVwaErpFlzVM= =SiDT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
