Well. I guess the easiest method is to have the operator forward you the
sessions via L2TP to your LNS so you can terminate and authenticate
them, using the method I indicated in my initial reply.

I don't know ISG well enough to advice, but
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2sb/isg/configuration/guide/isb_i
p.html shows how this can be used to handle "IP sessions". Maybe someone
else will be able to comment further.  

        oli

Vikas Sharma <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Monday, July 28,
2008 10:26 AM:

> Hi Oli,
> 
> Authentication is required to keep users in their respective VRFs.
> These all attributes will come from Radius. We are getting services
> from other operator. User are using their infracture and coming in to
> my network.   
> 
> We provide mpls vpn / internet services to the customer.
> 
> Regards,
> Vikas Sharma
> 
> 
> On 7/28/08, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>       Ah, ok.. may I ask why you would want to authenticate the
"users"?
>       And against which user database?
>       Which service(s) do you provide for the other operator? More
than
>       just traffic?
> 
>              oli
> 
>       Vikas Sharma <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Monday,
July
>       28, 2008 8:24 AM:
> 
>       > Hi Oli,
>       >
>       > Thanks for the prompt responce. I think I need to slightly
modify
>       > this.
>       >
>       > Though I have used the term LAC and LNS, I am not using L2TP
to get
>       > the data from the other operator. I am using Inter-AS option
A,
>       back > to back vrf. The issue I can see once the data is at my
ASBR,
>       it will > not have any control plane information (as other
operator
>       has already > put it in to the respective vrf). In that case I
will
>       not be able to > use my radius to authenticate the user. In
summary,
>       my radius will > not be used at all.
>       >
>       > Regards,
>       > Vikas Sharma
>       >
>       >
>       > On 7/28/08, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>       >
>       >       Vikas Sharma <> wrote on Monday, July 28, 2008 6:59 AM:
>       >
>       >       > Hi,
>       >       >
>       >       > Need help to resolve the below situation. The scenario
of
>       LAC / LNS
>       >       > and mpls option A -
>       >       >
>       >       > In case, the customer belong to the ISP dials and
latch in
>       the same
>       >       > ISP (i.e. using ISP infrastructure), I can
authenticate
>       (since they
>       >       > will latch on LNS, a radius client), using radius and
>       radius will
>       >       > return certain attribute including vrf / pool name
etc. and
>       then
>       >       > customer will go to it's own vrf and to it's own
network.
>       >       >
>       >       > But in my case, customers come from other ISP domain
>       (dialing and
>       >       > coming on their lac) and we are using back to back vrf
to
>       connect
>       >       LAC > and LNS. Now the problem is, how to authenticate
the
>       users and
>       >       return > vrf and ip pool name from the radius as LNS can
not
>       act as
>       >       radius > client now. The only option I can see is to
forward
>       the >       fraffic to > firewall, which can act as radius
client
>       and query to
>       >       radius server, > radius server can inturn return the
vlan
>       which can
>       >       be mapped to > respective vrf.
>       >
>       >       you can use vrf-aware Radius to send Radius the radius
>       requests >       within the VRF (which, I think, solves your
>       problem, but I'm not >       sure I entirely understood your
>       topology): >
>       >       aaa authentication ppp VRFCUST group VRFGROUP
>       >       aaa authorization network VRFCUST group VRFGROUP
>       >       aaa accounting network  VRFCUST group VRFGROUP
>       >       !
>       >       aaa group server radius VRFGROUP
>       >       server-private x.x.x.x key zzzzz
>       >       ip radius source-interface ...
>       >       ip vrf forwarding <vrf-name>
>       >       !
>       >       int virtual-template1
>       >       ppp authentication chap pap VRFCUST
>       >       ppp authorization VRFCUST
>       >       ppp accounting VRFCUST
>       >
>       >       However: The L2TP packets also arrive within a VRF, so
you
>       need to
>       >       use vrf-aware vpdn as well (specifiy "vpn vrf <name>" in
your
>       > vpdn-group).
>       >
>       >       hope this helps..
>       >
>       >              oli
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