On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Lamar Owen wrote:

On Sunday 17 August 2008 05:05:30 Gert Doering wrote:
From the comments seen on this list, I don't think that any sort of L2VPN
on 7500s is a good idea.

7500 is pretty much a dead and unsupported platform these days.

[snip]

Not all folk using older Cisco gear for core routing are financially able to
do forklift upgrades.  Some people, in this day of shrinking IT budgets and
lowering bandwidth costs/margins (at least to NSP's; the enterprise user is
seeing the opposite problem; for example, my OC3's base tariff went UP $1,000
per month thanks to tariff changes by the NECA), simply don't have the budget
to write off their investment in older gear and drop in a newer platform.

I don't think the original comment was intended as a knock on your organization's financial status (or any other organization's financial status for that matter) financial status. The Cisco 7500 series routers were and still are great routers - they served my network well for a great many years, but they are in fact at the end of their life cycle. If you can still use them to do what you need to do and they satisfy your operational requirements, then I hope they continue to work well for you for as long as needed.

More to the point of what I think Gert was getting at is that since the 7500 series is end-of-life, you have the potential to get stuck if you need to get support from Cisco. There is also the possibility that whatever feature you need may not be available in future releases of IOS for that platform, or new releases for that platform may be suspended entirely. Replacement hardware will have to come from the secondary market since Cisco normally doesn't RMA end-of-life parts.

Some organizations have policies that require them to keep vendor support on any piece of gear they have in production. That by nature forces them to stay ahead of the end-of-life curve, or at least be cognizant of the end-of-life dates for the gear they use. As a result, those upgrades get worked into their long-term capital planning cycles. I'm not suggesting that this is right or wrong...

Since this has the potential to drift off-topic for this list, this will be my only contribution to this thread.

Regards,
jms
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