Hi Roland,

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Dobbins, Roland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 8, 2010, at 5:18 AM, bas wrote:
>
>> And then decided to remove the IP address from the server (or shut it down)
>
>
> Why not S/RTBH or IDMS or even ACLs, instead of completing the DDoS for the 
> attacker?  Any of those techniques wouldn't result in high CPU on your 
> infrastructure.

ACL's are manual and not dynamic when we need them. Also ACL's do not
scale with many (spoofed) source addresses.

S/RTBH does prevent high CPU, but there are a two deal-breakers.
1. When source addresses are dropped at the network edge, and the
attacker uses spoofed source addresses there will be a lot of
colateral damage when traffic of "real" users, whose IP addresses are
spoofed, is dropped.
2. Our (dedicated server) customers receive quite a lot of SYN floods.
There are days that there might be 20 or more. Most of these SYN
floods are only a couple of mbit/s and do not hurt the network or
other customers. We do not want to interfere in case the server admin
battles the SYN floods themselves.

IDMS
heh.. I didn't know that acronym.
It seems it is an Arbor concoction?

We had peakflow SP for a test, it worked well, but it did not fit our
network/budget.

Bas

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