Right the conditional TTL hiding would be a nice feature As far as the Finland to Pakistan scenario -you would see maybe Helsinki and Stockholm than it would be handed over to Telia -no interest to cold potato/backhaul the internet traffic over to India
adam -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Saku Ytti Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Basic understanding of 6PE and 6VPE On (2012-06-26 09:23 +0200), adam vitkovsky wrote: > Regarding the TTL hiding it's new to me that some Customers would like > to see all the MPLS hops However I guess if the network runs as > supposed to the Customers wouldn't mind the missing extra hops in > their traceroutes If you are global/tier1 ISP mostly selling IP transit, it would be nice to know more than packet ingressed in Finland and egressed in Pakistan. Obviously the RTT will be incorrect, unless you pop them during transit, which implies INET and not BGP-free core. The incorrect RTT can negatively affect business of residential connection providers, as pseudo-clued gamers might think you have 50ms latency inside two pops in city, when going to another country (we did get also these complains when we didn't hide core). So I can relate to Gert's problem also. I think it all depends on what you are selling and to who. Technically it would be possible to implement conditional core hiding. So you could specify based on source IP when to hide or expose core (or when not to). Or heck, even based on what communities source IP has (like SCU type mechanism in JunOS). You could then decide that you don't hide core when you do traceroute from your NMS network. Or maybe you'll hide it for VPN customers also. -- ++ytti _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
