Hi, There's also netbrain. Expensive but nice
Regards YS ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:00 PM Subject: cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 127, Issue 39 Send cisco-nsp mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cisco-nsp digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ASR-9010-AC vs ASR-9010-AC-V2 (Ronan Mullally) 2. Re: ASR-9010-AC vs ASR-9010-AC-V2 (Mikael Abrahamsson) 3. Drawing Tool (M K) 4. Re: Drawing Tool (Jon Lewis) 5. Re: Drawing Tool (Massimiliano Stucchi) 6. Re: PIM BiDir on Nexus (Ge Moua) 7. Re: Drawing Tool (Andy Ellsworth) 8. Re: Drawing Tool (Jared Mauch) 9. Re: Drawing Tool (Nick Hilliard) 10. Re: Drawing Tool (Jared Mauch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:49:58 +0100 (IST) From: Ronan Mullally <[email protected]> To: Mattias Gyllenvarg <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR-9010-AC vs ASR-9010-AC-V2 Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1306200944580.2012@luggage> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Mattias Gyllenvarg wrote: > > > Dear List > > > > What is the difference between the chassie versions? > > > > Is the V2 just a hardware revision? > > V2 is probably the uprated FAN array, which means you can have DWDM > optics in all slots in a 24x10GE card. I think this relates to the power supplies. I noticed 'Version 1' and 'Version 2' power options in the specs a few weeks ago. When I asked our SE he told me V1 has 3 power modules, V2 has 4. The difference is essentially to provide more headroom in the event of one of the modules failing. Apparently V1 can just about do a fully loaded chassis with 2 modules. -Ronan ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:31:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> To: Ronan Mullally <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR-9010-AC vs ASR-9010-AC-V2 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Ronan Mullally wrote: > I think this relates to the power supplies. I noticed 'Version 1' and > 'Version 2' power options in the specs a few weeks ago. When I asked > our SE he told me V1 has 3 power modules, V2 has 4. The difference is > essentially to provide more headroom in the event of one of the modules > failing. Apparently V1 can just about do a fully loaded chassis with 2 > modules. My bad. Yes, I knew about the power shelves/supplies, just didn't know that they were reflected in the chassis ID as well. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:17:02 +0300 From: M K <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" What other options we have to draw network diagrams other than visio and edraw max ? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:24:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Lewis <[email protected]> To: M K <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, M K wrote: > What other options we have to draw network diagrams other than visio and > edraw max ? Depends on how fancy you want the diagrams to look. For Linux (free), there's Dia. For OSX (not free), there's Omnigraffle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:32:48 +0200 From: Massimiliano Stucchi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 6/20/13 2:17 PM, M K wrote: > What other options we have to draw network diagrams other than visio and > edraw max ? Omnigraffle is a nice option. -- Massimiliano Stucchi ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:35:41 -0500 From: Ge Moua <[email protected]> To: Colin Whittaker <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: [c-nsp] PIM BiDir on Nexus Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Colin, thx for the feedback. -- Regards, Ge Moua Univ of Minn Alumnus -- On 06/19/2013 06:36 PM, Colin Whittaker wrote: > This was all M108 and M132 cards. > > We were doing both pim bidir and pim-sm. > > The fib bugs were rare enough but we had enough scale that even at > something like 1 in 1000 error rates ment that we saw it frequently. > > Thankfully we turned off multicast about 6 months ago so only the > unicast bugs to deal with. > > The FIB bugs all relate to a fundamental defect in the n7k software > architecture in that the sup never validates that the linecards have > received the updates sent to the them so I would expect the f2 to have > similar issues. > In addition to the multicast issues we have seen unicast fib > inconsistency and interface mtus not matching. > > Colin > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 05:16:32PM -0500, Ge Moua wrote: >> Colin- >> Thx for the feedback. I'm looking at the the F2 cards on nx-7k; are you >> doing this on the older M-series cards? Also are you also doing >> specifically BiDir PIM? Standard PIM (SM specifically for use-case in >> question here) seems to work but without some minor hiccups on the newer >> F2 cards. Thx again. >> >> :-) >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Ge Moua >> Univ of Minn Alumnus >> -- >> >> >> On 06/19/2013 04:35 PM, Colin Whittaker wrote: >>> It works pretty well on n7k. >>> >>> The multicast code is prone to a class of bugs on the 7k where the fibs >>> on the line cards get out of sync with the rib/mrib on the sup. >>> >>> We had multiple instances of routers blackholing traffic after topology >>> changes because linecards had missing routes. >>> reloading the line card would fix it but it was always a bugger to find >>> the affected cards. >>> >>> colin >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Ge Moua wrote: >>>> c-nsp folks: >>>> Anyone out there looking to do PIM BiDir on Nexus? There appears to be >>>> some limitations with PIM BiDir on the nx-7k but the nx-6k may be a >>>> viable option (albeit the hw arch between the nx-7k& nx-6k are not >>>> exactly apples-for-apples). I'd appreciate opinion/feedback from others >>>> here. Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Ge Moua >>>> Univ of Minn Alumnus >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp >>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ >>>> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:58:03 -0500 From: Andy Ellsworth <[email protected]> Cc: cisco-nsp <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <CAMGH26=3p24qmdd8fof-rztkvhyi2akylahightxjnpdm3f...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For Q&D diagrams, there's also gliffy. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi < [email protected]> wrote: > On 6/20/13 2:17 PM, M K wrote: > > What other options we have to draw network diagrams other than visio and > edraw max ? > > Omnigraffle is a nice option. > > -- > > Massimiliano Stucchi > _______________________________________________ > cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:47:24 -0400 From: Jared Mauch <[email protected]> To: Massimiliano Stucchi <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would use omnigraffle if you want something predictably laid out. You can also use graphviz if you want something to automatically lay out hundreds or thousands of nodes. Jared Mauch > On Jun 20, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 6/20/13 2:17 PM, M K wrote: >> What other options we have to draw network diagrams other than visio and >> edraw max ? > > Omnigraffle is a nice option. > > -- > > Massimiliano Stucchi > _______________________________________________ > cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:41:45 +0100 From: Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> To: Jared Mauch <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 20/06/2013 14:47, Jared Mauch wrote: > I would use omnigraffle if you want something predictably laid out. You > can also use graphviz if you want something to automatically lay out > hundreds or thousands of nodes. omnigraffle uses graphviz as its layout engine, and can read .dot files directly. Nick ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:50:19 -0400 From: Jared Mauch <[email protected]> To: Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drawing Tool Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote: > On 20/06/2013 14:47, Jared Mauch wrote: >> I would use omnigraffle if you want something predictably laid out. You >> can also use graphviz if you want something to automatically lay out >> hundreds or thousands of nodes. > > omnigraffle uses graphviz as its layout engine, and can read .dot files > directly. Yup, but graphviz if you want something on a linux box, or something where you can make a fancy CGI with ImageMaps, etc.. to make them context clickable and interactive if you are so daring :) - Jared ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp ------------------------------ End of cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 127, Issue 39 ****************************************** _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
