Hi Jordi,

That's a complex problem and if you want high scalability, ME3600 isn't really 
the platform for that. If you really do want something that looks like hub and 
spoke, you could achieve it with a hierarchical topology.

For example, you could choose a few points to deploy ME3800s or some other more 
scalable box, terminate pseudowires to them from the ME3600s and then have the 
ME3800s offer the l3vpn/mvpn services. Caveats may include decreased 
reliability, increased complexity and higher bandwidth utilisation among 
others. It's up to you to decide whether such a solution would fit your 
topology and requirements or not.

My thoughts and words are my own.


On 22/09/2016, 17:36, "cisco-nsp on behalf of Jordi Magrané Roig" 
<cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net on behalf of jordimagr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Adam,
>Thanks. Do you know exactly the commands to partitionate the TCAM?
>Regarding my question about the hub & spoke, I mean the GRE tunnels that are 
>dynamically created when you enable MDT in the VRF. Now, in my network all the 
>PE are ME3600 anf they learn the loopbacks of all other PE inside the MDT 
>address famliy. Each PE builds one interface tunnel multipoint to all the 
>other PE. My problem is that the ME3600 is limited to 250 MDT routes and I 
>will have more than 250 PE in the next year.
>My idea was choose one ME3800 as a hub and all other ME3600 should have only 
>one MDT tunnel to this ME3800. But I don't know if in MPLS this architecture 
>Anybody has any experience with that?
>El 21/09/2016 a las 17:14, Adam Vitkovsky escribió:
>Hi Jordi,
>> Jordi Magrané Roig
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 3:05 PM
>> The maximum MDT routes is 250. I understand that the devices will not learn
>> more than 250 routes and then the GRE tunnels that are created to
>> encapsulate the multicast traffic will not be created anymore. Do you know if
>> there are some commands to tune the TCAM partition? Do you know if in
>Beauty of this platform is that anything is possible via the service cli, the 
>problem is though that the documentation to it is sparse and decentralized 
>even in cisco and without the right manual you won't be able to figure out how 
>to do the TCAM partitioning, or maybe you could, if you'd have couple of these 
>boxes you can afford to break you can exercise the trial and error approach. :)
>Anyways the ultimate problem is that all these ad-hoc tweaks will be lost 
>after reload unless you include them into the IOS code so they can be set 
>during booting.
>> MPLS environment it is possible to build the multicast tunnels as hub & spoke
>> instead of full-mesh?
>Not sure what do you mean.
>You have plethora of options how to scale the MDT numbers. The drawback of 
>scaling down the number of MDTs though is the m-cast distribution inefficiency.
>So for what it's worth you could have just one MDT tunnel if you build your 
>default MDT using PIM BIDIR and won't allow switchover to data MDTs -but then 
>all m-cast streams will be received by all PEs.
>Also please note that the Data MDTs will be created only from actual sources 
>to all interested receivers -so kind of hub and spoke -if you imagine PE 
>hosting m-cast source as hub.
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