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From: Mark Tinka <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 11:11 AM
To: Drew Weaver <[email protected]>; 'Shawn L' <[email protected]>; 'Cisco 
Network Service Providers' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Thoughts on the ASR9902?

On 10/10/24 18:20, Drew Weaver via cisco-nsp wrote:

> It's basically a 8 port 100GE router, all we wanted to do was configure it 
> for 3x100GE +10x10GE per 'slice' and that was impossible, instead they 
> advised us that if we want 6x100GE ports we should configure the slices 
> asymmetrically [i.e. one slice 4x100GE and the other slice 
> 2x100GE+10x10g+10x10g] but that of course reduces redundancy if you planned 
> on using port channels across the slices [assuming that the slices fail 
> independently of one another which wasn't our case with the bad memory as all 
> of the ports went down at the same time even though we were advised that the 
> two slices were independent by TAC].
>
> If I had it to do all over again I probably would've just purchased two 
> Arista 30x100GE switches [which with the right model can also do full tables] 
> for the same price as one 9902.
>
> If I couldn't do that I would probably just get whatever the smallest ASR99 
> is with 2x4 port 100GE line cards in it and just be done with it.
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The value that one used to get from buying tin with vendor silicon from Cisco 
and Juniper seems to be on the rapid decline.

Given the ultra-high pressure on transit and DIA margins, and with the bulk of 
the Internet failing when the large 5 - 6 content networks have a sneeze, do we 
really need all the smarts these traditional vendors have been pushing, in 2024?

On the one hand, I think not.
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Yeah, it sometimes almost feels as though traditional vendors are hastening the 
[for lack of a nicer term] enshittification of the Internet to their own 
detriment in a short term vs long term sense.

It has to suck for them that the aforementioned 5-6 content networks basically 
side stepped them entirely but we know why they did it.

 But I also don't think Broadcom is here to save anyone. So we're kind of 
stuck. Sadly.

-Drew

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