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Today's Topics:
1. uccx menu will not time out (Leetun, Rob)
2. Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Jason Aarons (AM))
3. Re: Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Erick Amaya)
4. Re: Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Nate VanMaren)
5. Re: Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Nick Matthews)
6. Re: Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Divin John)
7. Re: Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Erich Novak)
8. battery cover for 7925 wifi phone (Ed Leatherman)
9. Re: Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason (Matthew Loraditch)
10. Re: battery cover for 7925 wifi phone (Lelio Fulgenzi)
11. Re: battery cover for 7925 wifi phone (Ed Leatherman)
12. Re: battery cover for 7925 wifi phone (Christian Kratzer)
13. Re: battery cover for 7925 wifi phone (James O'Neill)
14. (no subject) (costas georgiou)
15. NAT CME with Real Ip address (sheref hf)
16. Re: NAT CME with Real Ip address (Roger Wiklund)
17. Intermittent Audio delay between a Mitel 3300 / Cisco CUBE
(Nathan Reeves)
18. SRST Voicemail + MWI (Heim, Dennis)
19. CallManager v9 and third party apps (e.g. Nuance Speech
Attendant) (Lelio Fulgenzi)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:00:53 +0000
From: "Leetun, Rob" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] uccx menu will not time out
Message-ID:
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Hi,
Has anyone ran into this error, which the menu in uccx 8.5 will not time out.
[cid:[email protected]]
[cid:[email protected]]
[cid:[email protected]]
[cid:[email protected]]
[cid:[email protected]]
Thanks.
Rob
Robert E. Leetun, CCNA, CCNA+Voice
Network Engineer
Boulder County Information Services
2025 14th Street
Boulder, Colorado 80302
303-441-3866 (W)
303-441-3983 (F)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:26:00 -0400
From: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <[email protected]>
To: "cisco-voip ([email protected])"
<[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive
Off-load (LRO)? -jason
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:48:45 -0500
From: Erick Amaya <[email protected]>
To: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <[email protected]>
Cc: "cisco-voip \([email protected]\)"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large
Receive Off-load (LRO)? -jason
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According to the UC on UCS wiki yes.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:26 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:13:18 +0000
From: Nate VanMaren <[email protected]>
To: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <[email protected]>, "cisco-voip
([email protected])" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large
Receive Off-load (LRO)? -jason
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Where did you find ESXi 5.1 was supported? I only see 5.0
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Unified_Communications_VMware_Requirements#VMware_vSphere_ESXi_Version_Support_for_Call_Processing_and_System_Management_Applications
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (AM)
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:26 PM
To: cisco-voip ([email protected])
Subject: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:17:38 -0400
From: Nick Matthews <[email protected]>
To: Erick Amaya <[email protected]>
Cc: "cisco-voip \([email protected]\)"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large
Receive Off-load (LRO)? -jason
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What I've heard (and I think it is getting pushed to the wiki soon) is it's
specific to CUCM 8.0 and 8.5, but not 8.6+. So ESXi 4.1+ on 8.0 or 8.5 CUCM
needs to turn off LRO. I believe it's related to the RHEL upgrade
associated with 8.6. Unsure on other apps. I would probably turn it off
since it's unlikely to cause performance gains for UC apps anyway.
-nick
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Erick Amaya <[email protected]> wrote:
> According to the UC on UCS wiki yes.
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:26 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 22:40:14 +0300
From: Divin John <[email protected]>
To: Nick Matthews <[email protected]>, Erick Amaya
<[email protected]>
Cc: "cisco-voip \([email protected]\)"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large
Receive Off-load (LRO)? -jason
Message-ID: <cc911d95.35913%[email protected]>
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CUCM 8.6 doesn't need to have LRO Disabled. Wiki will be updated soon. This
info is strictly for CUCM only.
--Divin
.:|:.:|:. CISCO | Divin John CCIE# 25905 (RS, Voice) | Unified
Communications | Customer Support Engineer | +44.203.180.6646/+1 919 991
9415 (SNR) | [email protected] | Mon-Fri 0600 - 1400 GMT
From: Nick Matthews <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday 2 October 2012 10:17 PM
To: Erick Amaya <[email protected]>
Cc: "cisco-voip ([email protected])" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive
Off-load (LRO)? -jason
What I've heard (and I think it is getting pushed to the wiki soon) is it's
specific to CUCM 8.0 and 8.5, but not 8.6+. So ESXi 4.1+ on 8.0 or 8.5 CUCM
needs to turn off LRO. I believe it's related to the RHEL upgrade
associated with 8.6. Unsure on other apps. I would probably turn it off
since it's unlikely to cause performance gains for UC apps anyway.
-nick
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Erick Amaya <[email protected]> wrote:
> According to the UC on UCS wiki yes.
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:26 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:31:30 +0000
From: Erich Novak <[email protected]>
To: Nick Matthews <[email protected]>, Erick Amaya
<[email protected]>
Cc: "cisco-voip \([email protected]\)"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large
Receive Off-load (LRO)? -jason
Message-ID: <cc910d70.2e10c%[email protected]>
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basically it was a vmware bug :
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1027511
with ESXi 5.0 I've had no performance issues on UC apps so far, but for peace
of mind I still disable it?
Von: Nick Matthews <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Datum: Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2012 21:17
An: Erick Amaya <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: VoIP List Cisco
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Betreff: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive
Off-load (LRO)? -jason
What I've heard (and I think it is getting pushed to the wiki soon) is it's
specific to CUCM 8.0 and 8.5, but not 8.6+. So ESXi 4.1+ on 8.0 or 8.5 CUCM
needs to turn off LRO. I believe it's related to the RHEL upgrade associated
with 8.6. Unsure on other apps. I would probably turn it off since it's
unlikely to cause performance gains for UC apps anyway.
-nick
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Erick Amaya
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
According to the UC on UCS wiki yes.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:26 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:10:15 -0400
From: Ed Leatherman <[email protected]>
To: Cisco VOIP <[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Message-ID:
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Anyone know where I can order a replacement cover for a 7925 WiFi phone?
Just the plastic cover that goes over the battery. I can't find it on the
price list that I have access to, if it's even possible.
--
Ed Leatherman
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:12:53 +0000
From: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
To: Nate VanMaren <[email protected]>, "Jason Aarons (AM)"
<[email protected]>, "cisco-voip
([email protected])" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large
Receive Off-load (LRO)? -jason
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
As far as I know it's specifically not. There is a discussion in the partner
community over this and a PM responsible for the area has said it's in the
works but no ETA (as usual) He is also looking for feedback on reasons to push
the approval forward.
https://communities.cisco.com/thread/29156 if you are a partner there it is.
Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA
1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093
voice. 410.252.8830
fax. 410.252.9284
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nate VanMaren
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:13 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM); cisco-voip ([email protected])
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive
Off-load (LRO)? -jason
Where did you find ESXi 5.1 was supported? I only see 5.0
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Unified_Communications_VMware_Requirements#VMware_vSphere_ESXi_Version_Support_for_Call_Processing_and_System_Management_Applications
From:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
On Behalf Of Jason Aarons (AM)
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:26 PM
To: cisco-voip ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)
Subject: [cisco-voip] Does ESXi 5.1 still need disable Large Receive Off-load
(LRO)? -jason
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]>
To: Ed Leatherman <[email protected]>
Cc: Cisco VOIP <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Message-ID:
<1568805611.1598212.1349208808020.javamail.r...@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
http://www.zcover.com/store/catalog/index.php?cFeatures=fs_CI925ZCL
---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Leatherman" <[email protected]>
To: "Cisco VOIP" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:10:15 PM
Subject: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Anyone know where I can order a replacement cover for a 7925 WiFi phone? Just
the plastic cover that goes over the battery. I can't find it on the price list
that I have access to, if it's even possible.
--
Ed Leatherman
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:16:28 -0400
From: Ed Leatherman <[email protected]>
To: "James O'Neill" <[email protected]>
Cc: Cisco VOIP <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Message-ID:
<cafc4dsrfbn8fzfrsffwr9vf+klo-q7pgks1h93fzyzfywv9...@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks everyone, exactly what I needed
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:15 PM, James O'Neill <[email protected]>wrote:
> You could try http://www.cmsc.com/ they normally have the parts that I
> use. You?ll either need to use the chat, e-mail their sales department, or
> call them. They normally don?t show their parts lists on the website.****
>
> ** **
>
> James O'Neill****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ed Leatherman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:10 PM
> *To:* Cisco VOIP
>
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone****
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone know where I can order a replacement cover for a 7925 WiFi phone?
> Just the plastic cover that goes over the battery. I can't find it on the
> price list that I have access to, if it's even possible.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Ed Leatherman****
>
> PISD Network Services
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:18:48 +0200 (CEST)
From: Christian Kratzer <[email protected]>
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]>
Cc: Cisco VOIP <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Hi,
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> http://www.zcover.com/store/catalog/index.php?cFeatures=fs_CI925ZCL
anybody know of a source for zcover products in the .eu or in germany ?
I would like to get same loading cradles for 7925 but cannot find a
source.
Greetings
Christian
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Leatherman" <[email protected]>
> To: "Cisco VOIP" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:10:15 PM
> Subject: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
>
> Anyone know where I can order a replacement cover for a 7925 WiFi phone? Just
> the plastic cover that goes over the battery. I can't find it on the price
> list that I have access to, if it's even possible.
>
>
>
--
Christian Kratzer CK Software GmbH
Email: [email protected] Wildberger Weg 24/2
Phone: +49 7032 893 997 - 0 D-71126 Gaeufelden
Fax: +49 7032 893 997 - 9 HRB 245288, Amtsgericht Stuttgart
Web: http://www.cksoft.de/ Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christian Kratzer
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:15:07 -0500
From: "James O'Neill" <[email protected]>
To: "'Ed Leatherman'" <[email protected]>, Cisco VOIP
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Message-ID:
<431b9998b707b34db98999ca667543210f38007...@pisdvexmb1.pasadenaisd.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
You could try http://www.cmsc.com/ they normally have the parts that I use.
You?ll either need to use the chat, e-mail their sales department, or call
them. They normally don?t show their parts lists on the website.
James O'Neill
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Leatherman
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:10 PM
To: Cisco VOIP
Subject: [cisco-voip] battery cover for 7925 wifi phone
Anyone know where I can order a replacement cover for a 7925 WiFi phone? Just
the plastic cover that goes over the battery. I can't find it on the price list
that I have access to, if it's even possible.
--
Ed Leatherman
PISD Network Services
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 06:45:56 +0000
From: costas georgiou <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] (no subject)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:21:17 +0000
From: sheref hf <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] NAT CME with Real Ip address
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all
I have Cisco CME solution; I want to nat the CME ip adress with Real IP address
to make smart phones register with CME via internet through it's Real Ip
addresswe made NAT configuration but Smart phones still cann't register with CME
Please advise me
BR,
Sherif
Network Engineer
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:21:44 +0200
From: Roger Wiklund <[email protected]>
To: sheref hf <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] NAT CME with Real Ip address
Message-ID:
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Can you please post the NAT/Interface config?
/Roger
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM, sheref hf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I have Cisco CME solution; I want to nat the CME ip adress with Real IP
> address to make smart phones register with CME via internet through it's
> Real Ip address
> we made NAT configuration but Smart phones still cann't register with CME
>
> Please advise me
>
>
>
>
>
> BR,
>
>
>
> Sherif
>
> Network Engineer
>
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:50:48 +0800
From: Nathan Reeves <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [cisco-voip] Intermittent Audio delay between a Mitel 3300 /
Cisco CUBE
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Throwing this out in hopes that someone's seen something similar.
We have a SIP trunk coming into a CUBE which is then passing calls onto a
Mitel 3300 via SIP. What we're seeing intermittently is delayed audio when
the inbound calls to the Mitel are answered. Doesn't happen on every call
but the call will connect once the mitel handset goes off hook, but audio
doesn't kick in for up to 6 seconds. In other calls using the same
external endpoint calling in, the audio is immediately connected.
I've primarily only had access to the Cisco CUBE so far, debugs on the
Mitel will be generated by another company which I'll look over once
received. Anyone seen this kind of issue in the field?
Thanks
Nathan
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:35:49 -0500
From: "Heim, Dennis" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] SRST Voicemail + MWI
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With SRST, I know you can force the call to be rerouted back out the pstn to
the pilot number so that voicemail is available at a remote site, during srst.
Is there any mechanism so that MWI is triggered for the remote site phones?
Dennis Heim
Sr. UC Engineer
World Wide Technology
Office: 314.212.1814
Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
www.wwt.com<http://www.wwt.com/>
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:04:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]>
To: Cisco VOIP <[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] CallManager v9 and third party apps (e.g. Nuance
Speech Attendant)
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After calling Nuance for compatibility between Nuance Speech Attendant and CUCM
v9, we were simply told, "it's not". Not sure if anyone out there is also
running the Speech Attendant software, but thought I would share that.
Aren't pre-release versions made available to partners and developers so they
can test this stuff out ahead of FCS dates?
I just find it odd that they didn't even share a roadmap, bugs or anything.
Comments? Thoughts?
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
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