So just give everyone a full circle look at this, after a total 3 month TAC 
case, pushes from Ryan, Wes, Matt Taber, and especially help  from Brian Meade, 
it was determined that this is as designed. User Control Single Number reach is 
not supposed to work with Blind Transfers. I am getting an enhancement request 
opened and in the meantime they are going to try to make the documentation 
clearer for the benefit of others.

Thus ends my saga!
Thanks again to everyone that helped.


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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:33 PM
To: Erick Wellnitz; Wes Sisk (wsisk)
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SNR/Mobility Not Working for Transferred Calls with 
User Control

DTMF works for all other functions at this client. User Control for 
non-transferred calls and everything involving Unity Connection. I also have 
CCX and it works there.


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From: Erick Wellnitz [mailto:ewellnitzv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:27 PM
To: Wes Sisk (wsisk)
Cc: Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SNR/Mobility Not Working for Transferred Calls with 
User Control

An easy way to test if DTMF is correct is to call into VM from outside and see 
if keypresses are recognized.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) 
<ws...@cisco.com<mailto:ws...@cisco.com>> wrote:
What is the case number?

I'm not saying the answer is "right" yet. I will say that DTMF capabilities are 
part of caps exchange and can cause capability mismatch, extra media resource 
requests, possible resource exhaustion, and call failure.

-Wes
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From: cisco-voip 
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on behalf of Matthew Loraditch 
[mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com<mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:40 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch; Erick Wellnitz
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SNR/Mobility Not Working for Transferred Calls with 
User Control
Well I just had a fun 45 minute geek out with an Escalation Engineer who while 
we  had a good discussion is extremely reluctant to file a defect and wants to 
point me to the customer's account team and a feature request before he files a 
bug.

The engineer was trying to say that this Note- my emphasis in bold (from here 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab09/mobilapp.html)
The user control mobile voicemail avoidance method is completely dependent on 
successful relay of the DTMF tone from the remote destination on the mobile 
voice network or PSTN all the way to Unified CM. The DTMF tone must be sent 
out-of-band to Unified CM. If DTMF relay is not properly configured on the 
network and system, DTMF will not be received and all call legs to remote 
destinations relying on the user control method will be disconnected. The 
system administrator should ensure proper DTMF interoperation and relay across 
the enterprise telephony network prior to enabling the user control method. If 
DTMF cannot be effectively relayed from the PSTN to Unified CM, then the timer 
control mobile voicemail avoidance method should be used instead.

Is indicating that I am having a DTMF relay issue causing the calls to not 
connect to the remote destination. That is course not the case because then the 
calls direct to the extensions wouldn't ring the remote destination either. He 
also couldn't point me to any log file entry indicating as such.
Anyway apparently I'm off to figure out this customer's account team for this 
FY and try to have them file a request...


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From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>]
 On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:09 PM
To: Erick Wellnitz
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SNR/Mobility Not Working for Transferred Calls with 
User Control

Well it seems at least we are all in agreement that the engineer we got on this 
case is off his rocker a bit.  We are still pushing him.


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From: Erick Wellnitz [mailto:ewellnitzv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:37 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch
Cc: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SNR/Mobility Not Working for Transferred Calls with 
User Control

Works as expected for me on 9.1.2 with H323 gateways and PRIs.



On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Matthew Loraditch 
<mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com<mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:
I should say it also works if just the extension is dialed on an internal to 
internal call.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:29 PM, "Matthew Loraditch" 
<mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com<mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:
Remote destination doesn't ring when the call is transferred to the user. 
Receptionist is best example. (Not a CUxAC user just regular phone) If the 
users DID is called remote destination rings.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:23 PM, "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" 
<rratl...@cisco.com<mailto:rratl...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Can you be more specific in what doesn't work?  The user control option for SNR 
calls wouldn't be there if it flat out didn't work.  As you noted it does 
require DTMF to get back to CUCM before the call will be cut through to the 
mobile but that should be it.

-Ryan

On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Matthew Loraditch 
<mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com<mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:

We are being told by TAC this doesn't work. The customer thinks it should and I 
frankly agree. We are insisting they provide documentation to prove the 
behavior is not a bug. They have referenced the SRND but I am not reading 
anything where it says SNR only works with Timer Control. In fact the user 
control section doesn't list any caveats except that DTMF relay must be working.
Anyone have any insight here? If it's a bug that's fine but there should be a 
bug ID.

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