To answer the original question, the two RAID5s is purely do to rebuild times 
in case of a failed disk.  I suspect the factory pre-install for BE7K also came 
into play here since it's based off of that TRC.  The flexflash was useful for 
ESXi but we aren't disk space limited in TRCs so there isn't that much to be 
gained that I'm aware of.

We specifically got rid of the RAID1 for ESXi because it wasted two disk 
spindles for the app that loads and runs entirely out of RAM.

I can't speak to the lack of RAID10 on TRCs.  I suspect it's because we don't 
need it for iops and that anyone really passionate about it will be specs based 
anyway.

Do keep in mind that when you deviate from the official TRC you are technically 
specs based, with the additional support requirements that entails.  That cost 
to the customer has to be considered, especially if they get into an ugly 
performance problem.

-Ryan

On Sep 5, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Haas, Neal 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Raid 10 all of the way! We have 4 C240’s. (Setup 2 Raid 5’s – then create them 
into a Raid 10. There is no button that just says create a Raid 10 from the 
bare drives.)


Neal Haas
IT Analyst, Communications
From: cisco-voip [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike 
Hyde
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM)
Cc: cisco-voip ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] C240M3 16 drives for CUCM/UCCE

We used SD flash disks for esxi (mirrored) and 2 raid 5 sets for the vms.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:31 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We have had customers have more than a single drive failure in a Raid5 set with 
all your vms running.  It was pretty.

So perhaps 2 drives raid 1 for ESXi and ISOs, 7 drives raid 5 for vms, 7 drives 
raid 5 for vms

But yeah the existing layout seems odd….but I do what it says…but I’m not sure 
where the contact center bu gets these setups from.

Jason Aarons
Consultant
Dimension Data
+1-904-338-3245

From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:16 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM)
Cc: cisco-voip ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] C240M3 16 drives for CUCM/UCCE


Personally, I wouldn't leave a system in that format, it's a waste of space.  
Cisco's docs seem to change because at one point, the docwiki specified that it 
could be built in either a raid 5 or raid 10 (for the app storage), but that 
has been updated.

I'd personally setup a mirror with the first two for ESXI and then a raid 10 
with the remainder drives.  You get more IOPS out of it and should have plenty 
of space.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
C240M3  TRC setup
8 drives raid 5 group 1
8 drives raid 5 group 2

Seems like an odd setup to have the hypervisor running on a Raid 5 array.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/virtual/CUCM_BK_CF3D71B4_00_cucm_virtual_servers/CUCM_BK_CF3D71B4_00_cucm_virtual_servers_chapter_010.html

Do you install Virtual Machines to both Raid5 arrays, or just ESXi on one and 
the VMs on the other?

Customer asked me why Cisco would have ESXi  installed on a 1.93TB raid 5 array 
vs having two drives in Raid 1 mirror.  I told them I would ask around.


Jason Aarons
Consultant
Dimension Data
+1-904-338-3245<tel:%2B1-904-338-3245>


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