I just went through a CUC 8.5(1)su7 to 10.5(2) upgrade last night.  I tried
to upgrade before the vRAM increase from 4 GB to 6GB and the upgrade failed
about 5 minutes in due to 'unsupported hardware'.   Shutdown the VMs,
increased the vRAM to 6GB, booted it back up and the upgrade was fine.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Ryan LaFountain (rlafount) <
rlafo...@cisco.com> wrote:

>   Hi All,
>
>  We really should have this better documented as we don’t follow CUCM 1:1
> as Anthony pointed out in the areas of underlying VOS versions and testing.
> I’ve field CSCut04158 for the doc-wiki to be updated. It should be visible
> soon.
>
>   Thank you,
>
> Ryan LaFountain
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>   From: Anthony Holloway
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:49 AM
> To: Andrew Grech, Daniel Pagan, Cisco VoIP Group
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Virtual 9.0(2) to 10.6(1) Upgrade
>
>   I opened a PDI ticket on this, because CUCM and CUC differ on when you
> should change the VM settings.  Here's what I wrote to PDI:
>
>  I am planning an upgrade from 8.6(2a)SU2 to 10.5(1)SU1.
>
>  I am looking at the pre-upgrade tasks of this document:
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/10_0_1/CUCM_BK_U4214F9D_00_upgrade-guide-cucm-100.html
>
>
>  It states that I need to modify the VM guest settings, to include the OS
> version, before I do the upgrade.
>
>  However, the CUC upgrade guide (which should largely be the same as CUCM
> considering the shared ISO image), states to do the same but Post-Upgrade,
> not before. That guide is here:
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/10x/upgrade/guide/10xcucrugx/10xcucrug010.html#16383
>
>
>  I'm wondering if it really matters when I change these settings on the
> VM: pre or post upgrade, just as long as I do it before VMTools is updated.
> Or might there be a problem with the documentation?
>
>  And their reply was simply, follow the documentation, because each team
> tests their upgrades differently, and how they documented it is how it
> worked for them.
>
>  That also means that for apps like UCCX, if you don't see anywhere,
> where it says to change the OS from 32 to 64 bit, then you shouldn't.
> You'd be making an assumption that the UCCX team moved their OS version,
> just because the CUCM team did.
>
>  Lastly, for RAM and CPU increases, I did those pre-upgrade, with the
> thoughts that: A) It's not unsupported to have more resources available to
> the VM, and B) It might make the upgrade process faster.
>
>  Those are my thoughts on the subject.
>
> On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 7:10:57 AM Andrew Grech <agrec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dan I just checked the OVAs and I do need to change the vNIC I
>> remember doing this for another product but it wasn't documented unlike ccx
>> unless I'm missing it.
>>
>> My other concern is my signed certificates but I have access to the CA so
>> its not a game changer if I need to reissue.
>>
>> I have thought about running sandbox servers up in my lab loading a drs
>> then upgrading. I could then disconnect the NICs of the current vms and
>> move the sandbox servers into production. This would provide an easy
>> rollback. Anyone have experience with this? Note I won't be cloning the
>> sandbox servers from production but rather running them up from scratch.
>>
>> On 20/02/2015 10:28 PM, "Daniel Pagan" <dpa...@fidelus.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Based on the UCCX tech note I found, I’d say the shutdown and final
>> modifications should be made after a full switch version is performed and
>> you’re running the upgrade release on your active partitions.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This differs from the official word from Cisco on CUCM, which is to
>> adjust the virtual machine resources to match the OVA template
>> specifications before the upgrade is performed. However, also according to
>> official documentation, changing the vNIC to VMXNET3 through PowerCLI
>> should be done post-upgrade.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Personally I’ve seen all these modifications being performed after the
>> upgrade is completed and version switched with no negative impact
>> whatsoever, but official documentation and TAC’s stance says the virtual
>> machine settings should be modified first, followed by the upgrade, then
>> wrapped up with the vNIC change to VMXNET3. I can provide documentation if
>> needed - it seems that UCCX documentation differs.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Also don’t forget to set the OS security settings to “permissive” if
>> you wish to auto-update the VMware Tools on the virtual machines.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf
>> Of Andrew Grech
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:43 PM
>> > To: Cisco VoIP Group
>> > Subject: [cisco-voip] UCCX Virtual 9.0(2) to 10.6(1) Upgrade
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm preparing an upgrade of uccx 9.0(2) to 10.6(1)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > When would be be the best time to adjust the OVA file?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I need to change the RAM and Guest OS to RHEL6 (although Guest OS
>> change step is not documented)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The guide says
>> >
>> > It is highly recommended that you gracefully shut down the UCCX VMs,
>> and update the memory allocation to the new values after you upgrade to
>> UCCX Version 10.0. If memory allocation for the VM is left unchanged after
>> the UCCX is upgraded to Version 10.0, this warning message displays:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Does this mean before the switch version?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrew
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