They are just retiring, not actually *invalidating* CCNP Voice, right?

I mean all of our CCNP Voice certificates won't go up in a puff of smoke once 
CCNP Collab comes out. Only that no new CCNP Voice certs would be awarded after 
a yet to be announced date (or has it been announced already? Anyway)

Since I've just got mine, I don't think I'll be in any rush to update to 
Collaboration, especially not until at least some valuable training materials 
are out . From my experience, I wouldn't rely on classroom training alone. So 
far none of the "official cisco training classes" I've attended covered *all* 
of the exam material.  And there's barely a synopsis for CIPTV2 out so far.

Cheers,

Zoltan Kelemen
Global Communications and Information Security
Implementation Engineering
Emerson

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Huff
Sent: 17 February 2015 19:58
To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith
Cc: voip puck
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs

What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP 
Collaboration 
(http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html).

Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and 
Collaboration?

If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another 
tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a 
few new questions about video.

This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't 
have to pay for that.

My grumpy two cents,

Ryan

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600
From: ben.st...@gmail.com<mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com>
To: wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>
CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests.  
Money grab?

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CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA
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<mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com>
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"From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!". -- St. 
Teresa of Avila

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
<wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>> wrote:
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration

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