Thanks for that Anthony, but something else that was in that presentation
that I didn't know about, was the 8.6 or older installs.  If the license
isn't migrated prior to Dec 1, the customer will have to purchase the
licenses again when they upgrade to 9.x or higher.  Basically, license
migrations for 8.6 and older will no longer be available after November,
unless they have SWSS on 8.x and the slide says very few people will have
that.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, Cisco announced CentOS as the OS for CUCM 12.0 at Cisco Live US
> 2017.
>
> BRKUCC-2011 - Best Practices for Migrating Previous Versions of CUCM to
> version 12 (2017 Las Vegas)
> <https://www.ciscolive.com/online/connect/sessionDetail.ww?SESSION_ID=95812&backBtn=true>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:15 PM Brian Meade <bmead...@vt.edu> wrote:
>
>> Historically this was due to Red Hat not wanting bootable versions of
>> their OS out there for everybody.  I think there was a plan to go to CentOS
>> for UCOS at some point but not sure if that ever got anywhere.  That was
>> going to allow bootables on cisoc.com again.
>>
>> I doubt 11.6 is on CentOS now because I would expect a refresh upgrade if
>> so but who knows.  Maybe Red Hat changed their agreement with Cisco?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I remember years ago Cisco starting posting bootable ISO's and then
>>> turned around and pulled them due to issues with another department.  Here
>>> is the relevant thread: https://puck.nether.
>>> net/pipermail/cisco-voip/2010-August/015533.html  Have to read some of
>>> the quoted messages that were not posted to the list.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Unified Communications IM and Presence ISO is bootable I believe
>>>> (maybe that changed?); although it's sister ISO, Unified Communications
>>>> Manager is not.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of
>>>> Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 10:08 AM
>>>> *To:* Matthew Huff; cisco-voip list
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco IM & Presence 11 5.1 SU2 corrupt
>>>> install with 2nd server
>>>>
>>>> I don't have an answer for you, but you reminded me that UCCX 11.6 is
>>>> setting the new standard for ISOs.  The UCCX 11.6 ISO on CCO for upgrading,
>>>> is also bootable, and can be used for fresh installs as well.  Get on board
>>>> IM&P, so people don't have to create their own bootable media.
>>>>
>>>> *Single ISO for Upgrades and Fresh-Install*
>>>> *In UCCX 11.6, there is only 1 ISO released that is posted on Cisco.com
>>>> and this ISO can be used for either an upgrade or a fresh install. The ISO
>>>> follows the regular naming convention of UCSInstall_UCCX
>>>> _11.6.XXXXX-XX.sgn.iso  **This ISO is provided with both boot options,
>>>> so serves as a bootable image as well.*
>>>> *Source: 
>>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/customer-collaboration/unified-contact-center-express/211582-Tech-Note-on-UCCX-11-6-Pre-Release-Commu.html
>>>> <https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/customer-collaboration/unified-contact-center-express/211582-Tech-Note-on-UCCX-11-6-Pre-Release-Commu.html>*
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:13 PM Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’ve tried repeatedly to install our second IM server, and it always
>>>>> fails with a corrupt file during post-install. I re-downloaded the ISO and
>>>>> recreated the bootable ISO, so I don’t believe it’s a ISO issue. Anyone 
>>>>> see
>>>>> this?
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