I will chime in as well.   From a higher ed funded institution (publicly funded 
by tax dollars) the ability to find less costly solutions is always at the 
forefront.   We fortunately are a Cisco shop from VC to network but we are 
constantly under pressure to find a cheaper solution.   That in itself causes a 
lot of dollars to be spent on purchasing a third party product and then 
massaging it to work as intended.   Sometimes the capital dollars are easy to 
solve for the purchase, it is the operational dollars that get hard to justify 
and even harder to acquire and resource.   It is a never ending battle to see 
where and what direction we will go with every shrinking budgets.   With so 
much invested in our infrastructure to date it seems odd that that investment 
would not be valued but sadly it does not always seem that way.    Not like it 
is in the corporate side or what appears to be like.

Just my 2 (1 ½) cents worth.

Terry

Terry Oakley
Telecommunications Coordinator | Information Technology Services
Red Deer College |100 College Blvd. | Box 5005 | Red Deer | Alberta | T4N 5H5
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:39 PM
To: Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] anyone try solaborate hello?

I think what you’ll find is that in a higher ed scenario, the ability to 
dictate what products are used doesn’t go as far as in a corporate environment.

If someone wants a Cisco room based system, they’re shelling out thousands of 
dollars. Even if a business case can be made, the money may simply not be there.

I was looking at bridging AV solutions with existing PC conferencing solution, 
like Jabber and WebEx from Cisco, and found some interesting HDMI to USB 
streaming devices.

But this solution allows someone to participate in the enterprise collaboration 
space, i.e. Spark and WebEx, with an economical solution.

I guess I see this as hardware using the existing platforms. I’m ok with that. 
For the most part. Something like HighFive which offers a subscription 
conferencing service, I wouldn’t condone, cause that just causes confusion.




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From: Anthony Holloway [mailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:27 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group 
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] anyone try solaborate hello?

I'm kind of curious to know who on this mailing list would have tried it, 
because this list seems to be made up of mostly people interested in Cisco 
products and technology.  Save for a few people of course, who have an indirect 
Cisco interest.

Granted, Cisco doesn't always make the first, the best, or the cheapest, and 
alternatives in the market are a good thing, but, from my perspective, which is 
through the eyes of a Cisco Engineer, I would never be installing a COTS 
product which competes directly with Cisco's own offerings.  Be it this 
product, or a Microsoft product.

Sure, I might see one in the field, but I wouldn't take any responsibility for 
managing it.

Since Lelio, you're on the customer side, is it different for you?  Do you have 
the freedom of just buying and trying any product you want, regardless of 
manufacturer?  Even when I was on the customer side for a few years, I was 
still a Cisco Engineer, and only worked on Cisco products.  Perhaps you wear 
more hats than just Cisco Engineer, and that's our difference.

Anyway, just curious.

By the way, this product actually looks pretty cool and he price is very 
affordable.  So, my above comments are not tied to the product itself, more to 
the idea of 3rd party COTS products competing against Cisco products, when 
viewed from a Cisco Engineer's perspective.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:13 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Has anyone tried this product?

https://www.solaborate.com/hello



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