Not at all. I’m saying the control needs to be more simple and friendly to use.

Why can’t there be a control right on the front of the login screen underneath 
the advanced settings link, “Cloud Login Yes | No”?

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On Jun 14, 2018, at 17:13, Anthony Holloway 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Are you arguing that the Jabber client shouldn't check for cloud services 
(webex messaenger) at all?

What is your distinction between a technique which solves a problem, and a 
solution?

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:04 PM Ryan Huff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
While I will agree that each “solution” can be made to work with a little 
creativity, my supposition is more basic. Why should I have to?

All of these techniques are not solutions, they are ways to navigate the boat 
around an anchor that shouldn’t even be there.

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On Jun 14, 2018, at 16:20, Anthony Holloway 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

RE: Re-installing the client
How did you get the client on their in the first place?  How do you handle 
upgrades?  If either of these methods used the MSI, then using the CLEAR=1 
switch shouldn't be a big deal.

RE: Funky URLs
End Users are happy to click on URLs.  In fact, it happens all the time when 
you sign up for new services (to activate new accounts), or when you request 
password resets.  And who's to say it has to look funky?  Just use a click here 
style link in the email.

RE: Calling Webex Support
Funny enough, in the Cisco Live US 2018 Troubleshooting Jabber like a TAC 
Engineer session, the TAC Engineer giving the preso (Amazing guy!) said 
something to the effect of: TAC will work with the Webex team to help you get 
that corrected.  Assuming of course it needs a correction, and you're not 
trying to run both services on the same domain.  I have not verified the 
validity of this statement however.

Now, I agree that it presents a challenge, and so I'm not denying that.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:52 PM Ryan Huff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sorry to Hijack this but ......

I’d settle for not having a forced Webexconnect authorization attempt without a 
good solution to turn it off.

If you think the command line installer switches to exclude a WebEx service 
discovery is an acceptable solution, I’d argue that you’re wrong. What if I 
want to go cloud someday? Just reinstall all the clients (since this method 
modified the bootstrap)?

If you think the mobile provisioning URL is a solution, it’s not. It’s a 
horrible solution. Convince my users to click on a funky looking url on their 
devices when I spend my existence espousing to users, not to click on funny 
looking links?

If you would think calling WebEx support to turn it off is acceptable ... 
please, by all means, try it and let me know your thoughts.

I’ve been after this feature for awhile now, just wrote a new idea request too 
...

https://communities.cisco.com/ideas/2827

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On Jun 14, 2018, at 15:30, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Well, that’s promising!

I hope whatever comes along will work with v11.5su4. I mean, if it requires and 
additional suX, I can live with that, too.



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Subject: [cisco-voip] are we still using custom jabber xml files in CUCM v11.5 
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I realized that in CUCM v9 and Jabber v11, we needed to use custom jabber xml 
files if we wanted to turn on a feature for some people but not others. That 
gets tricky with multiple features and providing some but not others. 
Definitely not scalable.

Has this changed in CUCM v11.5 and Jabber v12? I’m really hoping that the 
device configuration page will include most of the feature information.

We see new COP files distributed for phones as they are improved upon, it would 
be neat to see the same thing for Jabber.



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