Charles, You're recommending the cp command, but vmware says otherwise. Thoughts on this? Disclaimer: I'm no vmware guru, but I do read a lot of documentation.
"To prevent performance and data management related issues on ESX, avoid the use of using scp, cp, or mv for storage operations; instead use vmkfstools, VMware's virtual machine Importer tool. " Source: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1000936 On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 10:39 PM Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote: > Shut the VM down, ssh or console in, copy the directory. On Linux, it’s > cp -R dir/ new-dir/ > > Of course, it’s easier to cd into the datastore > > Once it’s copied, go into the vsphere client, browse the datastore into > the new dir and import the vmx > > I’ve done this to make backup copies in addition to DRS for an upgrade > > On Jan 20, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote: > > > Yes - I was quite surprised with the amount of time exporting/importing > requires. Especially because, as far as I know, there is no way to export > to a locally attached storage then pop that out/in and import. It has to be > done via vsphere client and pc. We ended up putting a laptop on the same > switch to speed things up a bit. > > I really wish there was a quicker way. > > Note: were using local storage on all our be7h servers. > > *-sent from mobile device-* > > > *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst > > Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph > > Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | > N1G 2W1 > > 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca > > > > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook > > > > [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] > > On Jan 20, 2019, at 9:03 PM, James Andrewartha < > jandrewar...@ccgs.wa.edu.au> wrote: > > For a major upgrade it seems pretty reasonable to me. I'd consider doing > it just for testing even if I upgraded the production servers directly > rather than shut them down and start up the upgraded ones. And if I was > going to do a parallel upgrade, I'd probably upgrade once to test, then > copy the production servers across again and do it for real. One thought > that comes to mind is how quickly you can copy back the VMs from AWS to > your production environment. > > "Everybody has a testing environment. Some people are lucky enough enough > to have a totally separate environment to run production in." > https://twitter.com/stahnma/status/634849376343429120 > > On 21/01/19 09:52, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: > > > Perhaps. But it’s an option. > > My preference would be to use on premise resources to create the offline > network. This part of the discussion was focused on how you could use VWC > on AWS to accomplish this if you didn’t have resources. The CSR would, if > it works, allow you to connect devices on prem to the offline servers to do > a more complete testing. But it’s not entirely necessary. > > It’s all what your more comfortable with, I guess. I’d rather double the > amount of prep time to complete the upgrades offline in order to reduce the > downtime to the production service. Especially when both CUCM and UCCX need > to be upgraded simultaneously due to version compatibility. > > > > *-sent from mobile device-* > > > *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst > > Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph > > Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | > N1G 2W1 > > 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca > > > > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook > > > > [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] > > On Jan 20, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Anthony Holloway < > avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does this sound a tad over engineered for an upgrade to anyone else, or is > it just me? > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 3:28 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote: > >> >> That sounds like exactly what I want to do! >> >> Thx! >> >> >> >> *-sent from mobile device-* >> >> >> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst >> >> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph >> >> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | >> N1G 2W1 >> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca >> >> >> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook >> >> >> >> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] >> >> On Jan 19, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Dave Goodwin <dave.good...@december.net> >> wrote: >> >> If you want to connect from the outside then rig up a virtual router such >> as a CSR that conndects to both the private and elastic side, establish a >> L2L VPN tunnel to the elastic IP, route the private IPs across the VPN. >> >> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:31 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>> Very interesting! >>> >>> Having private IPs on a secondary switch is great. But if I can’t >>> connect, then I can’t do full tests. We end up doing some mock migrations >>> and stuff. Also testing phones, etc. >>> >>> But hey, still worth a shot! >>> >>> *-sent from mobile device-* >>> >>> >>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst >>> >>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph >>> >>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | >>> N1G 2W1 >>> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca >>> >>> >>> >>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dave Goodwin <dave.good...@december.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you want to bring your own IPs to AWS instances instead of using >>> their Elastic IPs, you can do that now from what I understand: >>> >>> https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/10/announcing-the-general-availability-of-bring-your-own-ip-for-amazon-virtual-private-cloud/ >>> >>> I don’t know if that functionality is compatible with VMC-AWS or not. >>> Also, I’d think just like Charles suggested that you could use your own IPs >>> on a private vSwitch or VM network. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:04 PM Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Not sure, but let us know once you talk with your AWS / VMware sales >>>> team. >>>> >>>> If you need one, let me know and I'll put you in touch :) >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:01 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wonder if there are additional services you could subscribe to. >>>>> Front it with VPN/IP extension service so the vSwitch can be configured >>>>> with any VLAN that the extra layer offers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst >>>>> >>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph >>>>> >>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON >>>>> | N1G 2W1 >>>>> >>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <image001.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:51 PM >>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> >>>>> *Cc:* Matthew Collins <mcoll...@block.co.uk>; >>>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From what I understand, you cannot extend your IP, it's IP's assigned >>>>> from AWS. At least for public facing. I'm assuming you can spin up >>>>> another vswitch on the vsphere side and have private IP's, just like we >>>>> can >>>>> locally. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best >>>>> replacement for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use. >>>>> As long as the IP address space was the same, you could simply shut them >>>>> down and export after the migration was complete. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Side question… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into >>>>> AWS without much effort? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst >>>>> >>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph >>>>> >>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON >>>>> | N1G 2W1 >>>>> >>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <image001.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM >>>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> >>>>> *Cc:* Matthew Collins <mcoll...@block.co.uk>; >>>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that. Do we have a web >>>>> page where you can just go sign up, no. But there are services that let >>>>> you rent bare metal servers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to >>>>> rent out UCS systems for offline upgrades. :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *-sent from mobile device-* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst >>>>> >>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph >>>>> >>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON >>>>> | N1G 2W1 >>>>> >>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins <mcoll...@block.co.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one >>>>> issue that wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they >>>>> have been pretty smooth. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and >>>>> UCCX replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication >>>>> status). Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it >>>>> kept failing, Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the >>>>> command from the Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub >>>>> said it was failed. Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about >>>>> from a host name change years back and some of the tables where not >>>>> updated >>>>> on the sub. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra >>>>> gig most of the OVA’s. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades. >>>>> >>>>> CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA >>>>> CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins >>>>> IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA >>>>> IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins >>>>> >>>>> CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins >>>>> CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins >>>>> IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins >>>>> IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins >>>>> >>>>> UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA >>>>> UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins >>>>> UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins >>>>> UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Collins >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi >>>>> *Sent:* 17 January 2019 16:37 >>>>> *To:* SK <cciecollab2...@gmail.com>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the >>>>> environment in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then >>>>> your migration will basically be downtime involved with shutting down old >>>>> servers and turning up new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of >>>>> the imagination. However, once you put some thought into it, I think >>>>> you’ll >>>>> find this method extremely valuable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you >>>>> are satisfied. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change >>>>> freeze window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would hate to do upgrades on live systems. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lelio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst >>>>> >>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph >>>>> >>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON >>>>> | N1G 2W1 >>>>> >>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <image001.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of >>>>> *SK >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:48 AM >>>>> *To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >>>>> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are planning upgrade for our CUCM - CUC -UCCX platform from 10.5 to >>>>> 11.5 soon . UCCX will be on 11.6.2 mostly . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I will appreciate any pointers on known bugs / challenges . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you . >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> cisco-voip mailing list >>>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> cisco-voip mailing list >>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> cisco-voip mailing list >> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip >> > > > _______________________________________________ > cisco-voip mailing > listcisco-voip@puck.nether.nethttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip > > > -- > James Andrewartha > Network & Projects Engineer > Christ Church Grammar School > Claremont, Western Australia > Ph. 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