Cloud is good for some things, IMHO, but not a once size fit all.  As we
saw from last year, the cloud is not immune to outages.  Unless you are big
enough to get a dedicated circuit, you have QoS issues.

I have yet to see WxTeams work seamlessly on my mobile, the bug is back
where it continues to ring after I answer on elsewhere.

My cloud connected home phone is rock solid (8865 to WxTeams), aside from
the occasional QoS hiccup, but I would get that with any provider, not just
Webex.

Would I advise my bigger customers to switch?  Not yet.  Hybrid calling is
good for now and a properly built UCM cluster just can't be beat if you
have a well built network, etc.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 12:38 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

>
>
> Cisco is paying for clients who get “Cloud or Bust” tattoos.
>
>
>
> That’s a sign of good things to come.
>
>
>
> I’m convinced.
>
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>
> *From:* Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:31 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>; Charles
> Goldsmith <w...@woka.us>; cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle
>
>
>
> Let’s not get ahead of ourselves there ;). Just like war, usually (but not
> always) the people who want 100% cloud calling or think it’s a great idea
> are the people who’ve never experienced it.. lol
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 13:22, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> 
>
> You forgot how everyone will be migrating to Webex Calling before then.
> And your upgrade cycle will be out of control. Just like how Webex Teams
> has that green restart symbol every two weeks.
>
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:05 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith <w...@woka.us>; cisco-voip voyp list <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle
>
>
>
> So if I do the math...
>
>
>
> No more minor versions
>
> ...punches some keys...
>
>
>
> And 2 month SU cycles
>
> ...punches more keys....
>
>
>
> With an upper limit of 3 SUs
>
> ...punches even more keys...
>
>
>
> That's a new major version every 6 months!
>
>
>
> That means we'll see
>
> ..key punching intensifies...
>
>
>
> CUCM 69 by mid-2046.  Just in time for me to retire!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:57 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure I remember them saying there likely wouldn’t be that many SU’s
> either, three at most?
>
>
>
> **sigh**
>
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> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
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> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of *Anthony
> Holloway
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:50 AM
> *To:* Charles Goldsmith <w...@woka.us>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle
>
>
>
> Make it SU5 in memory of the .5 releases.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:18 AM Charles Goldsmith <w...@woka.us> wrote:
>
> I didn't see an announcement, was just told about the change, Cisco
> doesn't like us waiting for the .5 release to push out to customers.  We
> all know that the .0 releases have historically been more challenging.
>
>
>
> So now, I plan to wait until at least su2 before upgrading :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:15 AM Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why not just all Major versions all the time?  Google Chrome is on version
> 76.
>
>
>
> But seriously though, anyone got a reference to this announcement?  I
> didn't see it in the cisco live preso linked earlier.
>
>
>
> If not, what's the reported reason for dropping minor release numbers?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 5:40 AM Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> After 12.5, no more “.5” releases, it’ll just be major versions (and the
> SUs in between). After 12.5 we skip 13 and go right to 14 (then presumably,
> 15 after that).
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 02:05, Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
>
> What's going on with .5 releases?  I don't think I heard about that.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:16 PM Charles Goldsmith <w...@woka.us> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I think with the move away from the .5 releases, we'll be getting
> more SU's and less major releases.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM Ki Wi <kiwi.vo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> in the past , the SU release is every 6 months (usually longer than that,
> approximately twice a year maximum) but now Cisco is changing to every 2
> months?
>
>
>
> Reference : Page 20 of the link
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>
> https://www.ciscolive.com/c/dam/r/ciscolive/us/docs/2019/pdf/PSOCOL-1000.pdf
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> Regards,
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> Ki Wi
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