Wouldn’t it be great if ….

There was a button on Jabber that says, “tell me my e911 location”, and then, 
magic happens on the back end, and it returns with your address. And if it 
returns with a delay, the pop up says, “there could be a delay getting 911 
services to your location” and if you look at it and it’s wrong, you can push a 
button that says, “this is wrong”. Or if you have VPN enabled, it will tell you 
“it seems you have VPN enabled”, your public ip address  address is this. Your 
private ip address is this.

And so on.

I think the gub’ment should get the MPAA to put some money into this. 😉



From: Mark H. Turpin <mtur...@covene.com>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:14 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: ng911

Lelio,

I believe Webex Teams will redirect a 911 call from a mobile device to the 
native phone capabilities of the iPhone/Android.  I'm personally fine with the 
cellular carriers taking responsibility for providing the details like lat/long 
for the mobile phone. The data is already there on the phone, so I don't see 
any reason for the softphone to be involved.

Regarding Teams clients on the laptops and phones registered to Webex cloud, 
though, I am kind of wondering when and how Cisco will address NG911 
compatibility.



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What I find funny is that the MPAA can find you if you download a movie, but 
emergency responders can’t? Cellular service aside (and in that case, I hope 
that Webex calling has a “route out cell phone” option like Jabber does), if 
you have an IP address, you have to exist somewhere.



Why I gotta pay thousands of dollars more to make this work? They are shifting 
responsibility to end users rather than coming up with a way to make this work 
out of the box.



Ugh.



From: cisco-voip 
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Subject: [cisco-voip] ng911



Is anyone thinking about NG911 compatibility for pure Teams/Webex cloud 
calling? I understand Intrado/RedSky offerings for CER/on-prem/Jabber/hybrid 
calling.



The Webex Calling terms 
(https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/about/doing_business/legal/OfferDescriptions/cisco_collaboration_flex_plan.pdf<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fdam%2Fen_us%2Fabout%2Fdoing_business%2Flegal%2FOfferDescriptions%2Fcisco_collaboration_flex_plan.pdf&data=01%7C01%7Cmturpin%40covene.com%7C3eb60d556bc442b13c2008d7e3e9bbdb%7C575b0cc755204e999cb37affbf511f45%7C1&sdata=7zpjktKruM9KrEeyU60trWzW1CAY8J1vldygC91iVp4%3D&reserved=0>)
 state pretty clearly Cisco isn't supporting it today.



Emergency Response Disclaimer

YOUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE LOCATION FOR PURPOSES OF EMERGENCY CALLS IS LIMITED TO

YOUR COMPANY ADDRESS. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ADVISE YOUR AUTHORIZED USERS

TO ALWAYS PROVIDE THEIR CURRENT LOCATION WHEN CALLING EMERGENCY SERVICES.



That disclaimer is fine except when a user is calling 911 and can't speak to 
provide their address.



While Ray Baum's Act isn't in effect yet, it seems like Microsoft might have a 
leg up on this already with Dynamic Location Routing capabilities via their LIS 
and trusted IP architecture.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/configure-dynamic-emergency-calling<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fmicrosoftteams%2Fconfigure-dynamic-emergency-calling&data=01%7C01%7Cmturpin%40covene.com%7C3eb60d556bc442b13c2008d7e3e9bbdb%7C575b0cc755204e999cb37affbf511f45%7C1&sdata=GsH8fiuVlFufQ7te1iXd%2F%2F1Tq86Rr9DR2SF2CXK80Q4%3D&reserved=0>



I don't have an answer yet, just starting the conversation.

-Mark
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