All valid questions. No offense taken. Unless of course, you complain about me 
primarily using the @ macro plus route filters in all my route patterns. Then, 
them’s fighting words. 😉

The great thing about CUE was that it covered all scenarios with one solution. 
Every other scenario will need at least another fall-back meaning two 
solutions. I did this in my head a while back, never got it down on paper.

While I can appreciate the idea of a UNTCNXN cluster (is that the right acronym 
Anthony?), I’m not sold that there will never be a scenario where the second 
node will always work during whatever maintenance we’re planning. I’ve read 
document after document after scenario after scenario and have found we always 
seem to fit in that one exception to the rule for whatever reason.

I’m not saying that we won’t eventually move to a CUXN cluster (we’re not there 
yet) – but I was hoping to have a bit more time to delve into a proper design 
of both what the cluster can and can’t give us and what options we have for 
fall-back.

Let’s say, for whatever reason, a database corruption is replicated across the 
cluster. Then what? What do I do? I have to restore services from backup, 
rebuild the cluster, etc. All the while, having an unreliable AA going around 
because SRSV is trying to connect? (again, I don’t know the ins and outs of 
SRSV and CNXN clusters).

Having CUE available let me sleep at night and gave me a quick get out of jail 
free card I could use for almost any maintenance requirement, including those 
outside my control.



From: Charles Goldsmith <w...@woka.us>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 1:53 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
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Lelio, just curious why you would have scheduled downtime for the entire CUC 
cluster?  I can appreciate downtime for a node for maintenance, but even during 
an upgrade, your cluster should be up, one node or the other.

If it's more DC / network outage, why not have the 2nd node of your CUC cluster 
where ever you have your CUE for "backup".

No offense intended on your design, just wanting to know and possibly learn if 
it's something I'm overlooking.

Thanks


On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Ok. Thanks. This might work.

What I’m hoping to be able to do is to manually redirect calls from Connection 
to SRSV (for AA and voicemail) and still allow calls to be transferred 
accordingly to phones registered to CUCM, not SRST.

This was easily done with CUE, since it would register to both CUCM and SRST.

If SRSV has similar functionality, we’re golden.
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Yes, from what I remember it can operate while CUCM and CUCX are both up.

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Do you know if SRSV can operate while CUCM is up?

The great thing about CUE, is that it operated while CUCM was up. Completely 
independent of Unity Connection.

This means, I could schedule downtime for Connection and have an almost fully 
operational AA working.

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I used SRSV a while ago for one of our remote sites. I found it much simpler to 
get up and running than CUE and you can use your centralized Exchange.  IIRC 
you can send your voicemail pilot back to the gateway SRSV is registered to so 
all calls go to it. But it's been a really long time…

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Subject: [cisco-voip] Cisco moth-balling CUE - Is Connection SRSV the answer?


Looks like Cisco is moth-balling CUE. I liked that product. I’ll miss it.

It looks like Connection SRSV is the answer. Although I’m not sure it will 
offer everything we used (and planned to use) CUE for. For example, our 
voicemail ports forwarded to CUE which was always registered to CUCM. This way, 
calls would continue to work. It’s looking like SRSV will only work if the 
router is in SRST mode and all phones are registered to SRST.

Has anyone successfully deployed SRSV? How about using it during voicemail 
maintenance?

Lelio



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