It’s no different than it’s ever been except now Cisco sets a flag and TAC looks for that flag. It’s the most closed minded, short sighted policy change I ever seen from a technology company.
</rant> Sent from an iPhone mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please excude my typtos. > On Feb 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Nick Russo via cisco-voip > <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> wrote: > > > This is my favorite new Cisco "feature". All the 14.x platforms have this. > I think they implemented in 12.5(su4 or 5), but if the system goes down > dirty, the official Cisco policy is to do a restore from backup. So far, I > haven't had any actual issues after this happens, but if your system is in > this state, TAC won't help you until you've rebuilt. There are a few options > for graceful shutdown in VMWare, but your server needs to be on a UPS for > them to work. > > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 01:01:39 PM PST, Adam Pawlowski > <aj...@buffalo.edu> wrote: > > > I need to find it, but of course can’t right now, but I swear this is in the > ER documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be > re-installed if it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message. > > > > I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding that > message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have > occurred. > > > > There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people > more interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if > the system was okay or rebuild it. > > I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car > batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this feels > like the old “put tape over the check engine light” . > > > > Same thing I said there – personally, rebuild the thing when you can on your > time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade. > > CER seems to be the easiest thing to re-install – if you have exports you can > replace the system functionality rather quickly even when DRF backups are no > good. > > > > Adam > > > > From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio > Fulgenzi > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 3:07 PM > To: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage... > > > > Yes – those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all has > to do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown for > any bootup sequences. > > > > There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should work > on CER but it’s not listed. Not sure why. > > > > https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf > > > > From the readme (above): > > > > The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and > 14SU2 (14.0.1.12900-x) and higher. > > > > Note: I don’t think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC > reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking you > to rebuild. > > > > PS I don’t see why a system can’t recover without a rebuild either. > > > > From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Jonathan > Charles > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:58 PM > To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net > Subject: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage... > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to > ith...@uoguelph.ca > > > > Only on the CLI... > > > > WARNING: Ungraceful shutdown detected - A rebuild of this node is highly > recommended to ensure no negative impact(such as configuration or file system > corruption). For rebuild instructions, see the installation guide. > > > > The bugs suggest it should only be on 12.5 and early... this is on CER 14... > > > > Any recommendations? This seems a bit extreme... > > > > The system appears to be working normally. > > > > > > > > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > cisco-voip mailing list > cisco-voip@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip > _______________________________________________ > cisco-voip mailing list > cisco-voip@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
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