Yep, I will second that.
I was hired to be the Network and Facility Administrator. I got into
trouble (kind of) because I got tired of hearing one of the junior Sys Admin
complaining about MS when he was repairing a server and help him out. My
boss came by and told me to get back to my stuff and let the junior admin do
his job. He said I was hired to do Cisco and not MS. I am starting to tell
the other staffs (users) that as soon as it come out of the wall jack, it is
not my responsibility and they have to talk to the other MIS staffs.
By the way, I only have two months experiences. (no IT before this job)
Live in a high cost and low IT wage area, Vancouver Canada, and make more
than $29,000us.
Get motivated, I mean studying. Read everything on this list. If you see
ANY thing that you don't understand, find the answer in CCO. Practice at
home every night. Put yourself on a schedule to get your CCNP in four
months. THAN go and have a talk with your boss. If you know your stuff
(even with less than 1 year experiences), you will be able to find a fun job
that pays well and is challenging. I did. I just finish setting up a VoIP
(with help of people on this list). I am now doing the planning for a 144
VoIP setup, collocation for our server farm, planning a redesign of our
entire network.
Oh, start collecting business cards.
Albert
""Mark Holloway"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet.
>
> I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted
> to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I
> started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365. This is in
> Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace
> (because the Casinos are cheap as hell! Never work in one! I did and it
> sucked! Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of
> IBM/AS400 dominance. I now work 10 miles away from the strip). I only
get
> called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home.
> Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the
Tropicana
> Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that
hands
> on is the only true measure of ones abilities. When I completed my MCSE I
> knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in
relation
> to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake
of
> knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System
admins".
> In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not
> responsible for Servers or operating systems. The only concern should be
> packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few
> others. Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap.
> Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and
> troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible
for
> that crap. A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to
worry
> about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department.
BTW,
> I heard Sprint Long Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS)
> is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus. This came straight from one
> of their enigneers.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin S. Mahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
>
>
> > No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote:
> > >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang..
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Ryan Ward
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >
> > >
> > >FYI...
> > >
> > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both
> got
> > >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also
> have
> > >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little
> > >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of
raises.
> > >
> > >-Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Brad Ellis
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >
> > >
> > >Chad,
> > >
> > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still
> need
> > >to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very
hard
> to
> > >get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places
won't
> pay
> > >OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After
that
> > >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr.
> > >
> > >Keep chugging along!
> > >-Brad
> > >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months
> of
> > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
> > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am
currently
> > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This
seems
> low
> > >to
> > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
> > > >
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> >
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> > Tech Editor of CCDA Exam Certification Guide, Cisco Press, ISBN
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