I'm sorry I can't resist.... <Soapbox mode> I side with Drew on this one....It strikes a nerve with me. That and hearing about websites that give away MCSE test answers...DAMN I'VE WORKED HARD FOR THE CERTS I HAVE EARNED AND IT IRRITATES THE SNOT OUT OF ME WHEN SOMEONE BELITTLES THEM WITH THESE TYPE OF COMMENTS. </Soapbox> Ok now that that's over with... I found a pretty good link re the T1/Robbed bit/Clear Channel thread....helped clear some things up for me...wanted to pass it on. http://www.dcbnet.com/notes/9611t1.html Kris =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kris A. Krake, CNE, MCSE Network Engineer AEGON Technology Services - NECS 502.560.2716 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:00 PM To: 'William E Gragido'; Croyle, James; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Integrator wanted! I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here - and this thread should die really soon, but for the benefit of those not privy to what offline discussion has taken place on this topic, let me fill in some blanks. To judge by the offline and online replies this thread has gotten, far ore people on this list agree with the premise that an individual who's 'obtained respected industry certifications' certainly ought to be capable of setting up the equipment in question. The aforementioned individual though, prefers to huff and puff about how he went out and bought the books and studied for the tests and didn't take any classes and doesn't have any cisco experience and [did I mention he didn't take any classes or that he doesn't have any cisco experience?] that he passed the tests - thereby 'earning' the 'respected industry certifications' of Cisco Certified Networking Associate and Cisco Certified Design Associate. Did I mention that he didn't have any cisco experience? HELLOOOO!!! "Yes, good morning hiring manager - I'm the CCNA/CCDA you advertised for." "um, well, no - not _really_ - no. But I'm a really fast learner! I passed the certifications for Network Associate and Design Associate first time around! In six weeks!" "um...hubs? like on a car you mean? ohhhhh....you mean the level one single broadcast domain device they talk about in the book....yes! a hub....um...sure. yeah. I could do that." Give me a break. Drew M. Mooney Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126 408-525-0873 [office] 408-287-3188 [home] 817-937-7880 [mobile] 888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager] +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile -----Original Message----- From: William E Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:20 PM To: Croyle, James; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Integrator wanted! I hate to disagree with you on this Jim, but I don't think that Drew was being sarcastic at all. He pointed out something extremely pertinent to this persons post---the fact that he asked a question that was by all shakes of the stick elementary and that his sginature reads(look at the post again) CCNA/CCDA. I think that this identified an interesting phenomenon that struck other vendor certifications and that I personally hate to see strike Ciscos. There are no such things as stupid questions and I believe that each one of us on this list is more than happy to help anyone with anything. After all no one knows everything! However to post a question of this sort and then include in your signature that you have obtained respected industry certifications may be a tactical error. Cheers, and thats my 2cents! > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Croyle, James > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:22 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted! > > > I don't have much time to respond to this one due to a large looming > project, except... > > 1) Drew seems to have a nasty non-helpful attitude, and if you > (Drew) post > to the list asking any questions, I hope you are greeted with an equally > sarcastic and immature response as yours. > > 2) Edgar, I would recommend that you at least try something > before posting > something like where do I start. I think this list is more I have tried > something and it doesn't work, or I have this situation, and what are your > recommendations. MOST everyone will give you great advice and > recommendations when you approach it this way. Except for a > select few, and > you have to expect that from any list. :-) > > Jim Croyle > CCNA, MCSE, CNA, A+ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:41 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted! > > > Does your signature say CCNA/CCDA? > > Did you pay someone to study for you and take the exams? > > Drew M. Mooney > Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together > 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126 > 408-525-0873 [office] 408-287-3188 [home] > 817-937-7880 [mobile] 888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager] > +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Integrator wanted! > > > Friends, > > I have a Cisco 2505, laptop on Win98, and a desktop with Linux > 6.2 and I will like to connect them. > > I have a PCMCIA ethernet LAN card for the laptop, an ethernet > LAN for the PC with cables all around. > > The objective is to learn Cisco router configuration and > Linux/Win98 TCP/IP operations. > > Anyone want to volunteer to instruct me to put all the pieces to > together over the coming week or so? > > -edgar > CCNA/CCDA > > ___________________________________ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___________________________________ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___________________________________ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
