Could not agree more, as someone who holds numerous certs and is in a
position of hiring people a feel that certification is a major part of my
descision process. But this is not a job interview it is a discussion group,
with much phenomenal talent and many certs. So why do we advertise them when
we sign, who cares!!! I told edgar that he should connect the cables and
turn the equipment on. That was the best advice or direction you can give a
budding NE, play with it, You know!! For that advice edgar sent me a Flame
E-mail,  Edgar told me he worked with people like me, I didn't know what
that means. No problem!!! I don't work with people like Edgar either,
because if someone told me they were a CCNA/CCDA and then they wanted to be
spoon feed work I taught my 6 year old son to do, I'd have to let him go.
But if someone told me he was a CCNA/CCDA and had worked at connecting those
three devices till midnight without success, I would work along with that
person the next night to midnight, cause ya gotta love it. See the
difference edgar. Most people here don't have a personal router to play with
and all they get is time at work to use equipment.
So let me give you this advice again in open group, Plug it in and turn it
on and start to play, when you hit a snag, everyone and anyone in the group
will help.
Duck
TTR, CCLK IIOU,CWEBEE, and that elusive cert ABC YEAH YOU KNOW ME.
----- Original Message -----
From: William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Croyle, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!


> I hate to disagree with you on this Jim, but I don't think that Drew was
> being sarcastic at all.  He pointed out something extremely pertinent to
> this persons post---the fact that he asked a question that was by all
shakes
> of the stick elementary and that his sginature reads(look at the post
again)
> CCNA/CCDA.  I think that this identified an interesting phenomenon that
> struck other vendor certifications and that I personally hate to see
strike
> Ciscos.  There are no such things as stupid questions and I believe that
> each one of us on this list is more than happy to help anyone with
anything.
> After all no one knows everything!  However to post a question of this
sort
> and then include in your signature that you have obtained respected
industry
> certifications may be a tactical error.  Cheers, and thats my 2cents!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Croyle, James
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:22 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> >
> >
> > I don't have much time to respond to this one due to a large looming
> > project, except...
> >
> > 1)  Drew seems to have a nasty non-helpful attitude, and if you
> > (Drew) post
> > to the list asking any questions, I hope you are greeted with an equally
> > sarcastic and immature response as yours.
> >
> > 2)  Edgar, I would recommend that you at least try something
> > before posting
> > something like where do I start.  I think this list is more I have tried
> > something and it doesn't work, or I have this situation, and what are
your
> > recommendations.  MOST everyone will give you great advice and
> > recommendations when you approach it this way.  Except for a
> > select few, and
> > you have to expect that from any list.  :-)
> >
> > Jim Croyle
> > CCNA, MCSE, CNA, A+
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:41 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> >
> >
> > Does your signature say CCNA/CCDA?
> >
> > Did you pay someone to study for you and take the exams?
> >
> > Drew M. Mooney
> > Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together
> > 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126
> > 408-525-0873 [office]           408-287-3188 [home]
> > 817-937-7880 [mobile]         888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager]
> > +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:02 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Integrator wanted!
> >
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > I have a Cisco 2505, laptop on Win98, and a desktop with Linux
> > 6.2 and I will like to connect them.
> >
> > I have a PCMCIA ethernet LAN card for the laptop, an ethernet
> > LAN for the PC with cables all around.
> >
> > The objective is to learn Cisco router configuration and
> > Linux/Win98 TCP/IP operations.
> >
> > Anyone want to volunteer to instruct me to put all the pieces to
> > together over the coming week or so?
> >
> > -edgar
> > CCNA/CCDA
> >
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