Not true, I just took a course by KnowledgeNet and it includes the official
slide presentation with notes below each slide on each of the new CCNP
track.  I have taken all 4 of the courses, and taken 2 of the tests, about
to take BSCN.  The courses are official Cisco courseware, and the class/book
is GREAT, and so are the presenters.  No, I don't work for them.  :-)

Jim Croyle
CMS Information Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Fomes Iain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:09 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: BSCN Books ?


 There are no cisco training guides out yet for Building Scalable Ciso
Networks 
they are due to published the middle of this month
BSCMN has been out for about 2 months 
iIf you want to study BSCN i.e the new routing exam study OSPF BGP and EIGRP
and forget the rest 
Use the Cisco web site that is what it is there for.....It is almost always
as well more up to date than even 
the Cisco Press books yet to be published 
There is not a book that will teach you what you need to be able to
understand it properly..
You need to do the hard work yourselves
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ed smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 01 August 2000 15:28
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> Subject:      Re: BSCN Books ?
> 
> Go to www.borders.com   search on ISBN: 1578700930
> 
> they have the best price and Barnes and Noble doesn't even carry it yet.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
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> >What book should I use to study for BSCN ?
> >
> >
> >>From: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
> >>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:27:39 -0400
> >>
> >>""Anil Panjwani"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> > hi
> >> > that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious
> >>for
> >> > putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines
> >> >
> >> > can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are 
> >>actually
> >> > removed?
> >>
> >>I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have
> been
> >>removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to
> >>construct
> >>access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps
> >>(policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map
> exactly
> >>to
> >>the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected
> >>turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than
> ACRC
> >>and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course
> material.
> >>The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one
> >>router
> >>between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers 
> >>(in
> >>our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two
> >>students. There really isn't a single topic that hasn't been revised or
> >>rewritten. To my mind, having attended ACRC and seen BSCN, there is only
> >>one
> >>major area of difference between the two: ACRC touched on BGP in about
> 20
> >>pages. BSCN has two very sizeable chapeters on BGP, replete with labs
> and
> >>case studies. The last day of the course is pretty much one gigantic
> >>superlab with everything learned in the course being configured.
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>Edward Solomon
> >>CCNA, CCSI
> >>Senior I/T Specialist
> >>Networking Solutions
> >>IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services
> >>Tel.: (905) 316-3241  Fax: (905) 316-3101
> >>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
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