""Mic shoeps"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thank you all folks. > I don't know much about Linux. But I would like to use the analogy that > Cisco engineers are like traffic officers in major intersections in a city > and Linux (Lexus), Microsoft (Mercedes), Solaris (Saab), Visual+ (Volvo) > engineers are like thousands of drivers passing through these intersections. > As the traffic gets heavy, those intersections will get bog down and another > intersections will be build to accomodate the throughput of the traffics. > But the Lexus, Mercedes, Saab and Volvo engineers will build more bigger, > faster and powerful sofisticated cars to get the most out of the > infrastructures and elicit more customers to learn how to drive their cars.
Actually, to extend your analogy, I think the real problem is that there the world built WAY too many roads than needed. This is why there is such talk of a telco capacity glut. While Internet traffic was doubling every year, providers were building out as if traffic was doubling every 100 days. Couple that with the fact that carriers have essentially almost to a man have not figured out how to make money off the Internet. For example, consider the following quotes: "...we have the spectacle of three once powerful, "next gen" carriers in total collapse: UUNet as part of the WorldCom debacle, PSINet and Genuity. Makes no mistake: these bankruptcies are not the result of an economic downturn or solely due to corruption and fraud. Rather, as we have said before many times in many of our publications: the underlying carrier business models are fundamentally flawed...we are led to a conclusion that at this time there is no sound business model for the carrier side of the Internet. The carrier industry has come to an absolute dead-end under the current set of business models," http://www.proberesearch.com/alerts/2002/ipproblems.htm "...Where one of the alternative networks (again, the Internet) isn't profitable in the present, it undermines the whole premise of convergence. Why would the market move to select a network choice that doesn't make money even for the core services it's intended to provide? " http://www.networkmagazine.com/article/NMG20020930S0011/3 > > But the trouble is that the city is not expanding or get connected with > another cities (hats off to the mayor Bush). Without getting political, I think this is more the fault of a certain Mr. bin Laden. >Seems to me that there will be > plenty of fuel and asphalt to build the road and power the cars. But the > land is limited and more cars will be build to meet the insatiable consumer > appetite. But soon the automations will catch up with the demand and the > traffic officers will standing in his post like the Maytag technician. True indeed, networks and network engineering will become ordinary. > > Worst of all, more traffic officers will become increasingly territorial to > new and old alike. They will use the terms like 'ph'd' and 'lab rat' to > boost their egos and deter others who are trying to enter into their realm. Uh, here we must part company. I think you grant far too much power to some of us 'traffic officers'. The fact is if certain designations are considered good or bad, it is not because the old-timers say so, but because the free market says so. Holders of PhD's tend to make more money and suffer from less unemployment than nonholders of PhD's (all other things being equal) not because companies enjoy paying those PhD guys more (oh please please, take our money because we want to make less profit), but because on average those PhD holders tend to be scarcer and more productive. By the same token, 'lab-rat' CCIE's (and by that I mean people who have little to no experience as compared to the average CCIE) tend to be paid less and tend to suffer from more unemployment not because companies 'enjoy' screwing them but because it is widely acknowledged that those with less experience tend to be less productive than those with more experience. Simple as that. Therefore, as far as the term 'lab-rat' is concerned, the only thing that the older traffic officers did was give the phenomenom a name - basically those guys who had little or no experience working in actual production environments but somehow got their CCIE anyway were termed 'lab-rats'. But that's just a name. To quote Shakespeare: "What's in a name?" You can change the term from 'lab-rats' to 'lab-teddy bears' or whatever you want to call it. At the end of the day, it doesn't change a thing. The fact remains that, regardless of certification or lack thereof, those with less or no experience will on average have fewer/worse job prospects than those with more experience, and that's not because the old-timers are saying so but because the free market for labor says so. It's really as simple and as complicated as that. > > Yes, I love the challenge and that's what I'm doing right now. But I'll > seriously reconsider if my presence becomes a threat to another traffic > officer's pizza and the only choice I'll be left with is a big mac. Looks > like Linux (open system for free) provide you that unhostile pizzaria and > more. Your friendly insignt is appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=66731&t=66669 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

