Brian,

A few minutes after I sent my post I saw that coming. I was taking his
statement "The burst size should 1/8 of the bit rate cfg'd" as a
scenario requirement. 

The "1/8" should have clued me into the fact the the problem was not
stating a specific scenario requirement but just stating the Bc=CIR*Tc
rule.

Thanks,

Jonathan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McGahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:53 PM
> To: 'Jonathan V Hays'; 'John Smith'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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> Subject: RE: QoS - Enabling Traffic Shaping
> 
> 
> Jonathan,
> 
>       First let's make sure we're on the same page with definitions.
> For traffic-shaping (both GTS and FRTS), the terms are as follows:
> 
> AR  = Access Rate (physical clock or rate-limit at local loop)
> CIR = Average per second
> Bc  = Bits per interval committed
> Be  = Bits per interval excess
> Tc  = Interval in ms
> 
>       The following formula should be used to calculate Bc:
> 
> Bc = CIR * Tc/1000
> 
>       The following formula should be used to calculate Be:
> 
> Be = (AR - CIR) * Tc/1000
> 
> 
>       In this example, our access-rate is 64000bps.  We are trying to
> average 15% of our access rate for telnet traffic.  Average per second
> is CIR.
> 
> CIR = 64000 bps X .15 = 9600 bps
> 
>       Let's assume for this example that our Tc is 1/8 second, or 125
> ms.  Our committed burst size would then be as follows:
> 
> Bc = CIR * Tc/1000
> Bc = 9600 * 125/1000
> Bc = 9600 * .125
> Bc = 1200
> 
>       Now let's double check our calculation.
> 
> We have 125 ms per interval.  There are 1000 ms per second.
> 
> 1 interval | 1000 ms
> --------------------- = 8 intervals per second
>   125 ms   | 1 second
> 
> If we are sending 1200 bits per interval 8 times per second:
> 
> 1200 bits  | 8 intervals
> ------------------------ = 1200 * 8 = 9600bps
> 1 interval | 1 second
> 
> 
> As a side note, if you want no excess burst, you want the Be 
> value to be
> zero, not the same as the Bc value.  The syntax should then read as
> follows:
> 
> traffic-shape group 101 9600 1200 0
> 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan V Hays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:39 AM
> > To: 'John Smith'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Subject: RE: QoS - Enabling Traffic Shaping
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > I assume the '25' after each percentage sign in your original post
> below
> > is a typo (e.g., "15%25 of bandwidth"). Given that assumption, you
> want
> > to assign traffic to three categories, with 15%, 50%, and 35% of the
> 64
> > kbps bandwidth.
> > 
> > 64000 x .15 =  9600 bps
> > 64000 x .50 = 32000 bps
> > 64000 x .35 = 22400 bps
> > 
> > > burst size should 1/8 of the bit rate cfg'd, no excess burst
> > 
> > 1/8 = .125
> > 
> >  9600 x .125 = 1200 bps
> > 32000 x .125 = 4000 bps
> > 22400 x .125 = 2800 bps
> > 
> > However, I question the burst size given in your solution. The
> > definition from the Doc CD states that the  burst-size is the
> "Sustained
> > number of bits that can be sent per INTERVAL. On Frame Relay
> interfaces,
> > this is the Committed Burst size contracted with your service
> provider.
> > "
> > 
> > See
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios12
> 2/122cgcr/
> > fqos_r/qrfcmd11.htm#1019905
> > 
> > If the interval is 1/8 second (and it may not be) I would think the
> > correct answer would divide each of 1200, 4000, and 2800 by 
> 8, to get
> > bits per interval.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > 
> > Jonathan
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of John Smith
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:21 AM
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> > > Subject: QoS - Enabling Traffic Shaping
> > >
> > >
> > > Somehow I have forgotten how to do math... Can anyone explain
> > > to me or point to a doc on figuring out the percentage for
> > > the below lab.
> > >
> > > Enable traffic shaping on int serial 0/0 as follows:
> > >
> > > Shape Telnet and ICMP traffic to 15%25 of bandwidth
> > > Shape FTP traffic to 50%25 of bw
> > > Shape all remianing traffic to 35%25 of bw.
> > >
> > > Remember the total link bw is 64 kbps on this interface. The
> > > burst size should 1/8 of the bit rate cfg'd, no excess burst
> > > should be allowed.
> > >
> > > The answer from the lab help are, below can anyone tell me
> > > how the number 9600, 32000 and 22400 were arrived at? I can
> > > figure out the 1/8th part 1200, 4000 and 2800, but somehow
> > > can't remember how to get the original percentage..
> > >
> > > traffic-shape group 101 9600 1200 1200
> > > traffic-shape group 102 32000 4000 4000
> > > traffic-shape group 103 22400 2800 2800
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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