>At 8:29 PM +0000 6/25/03, Hemingway wrote:
>  > The main differences being that
>>
>>  a.) the FR switch typically doesn't learn the DLCI numbers dynamically,
>>  rather the service provider needs to configure it hop-by-hop, and
>>
>>  b.) the DLCI is not a globally unique identifier, like the MAC address in
>>  the case of an Ethernet switch, rather has only local significance and it
>>  might change along the path (aka PVC) from switch to switch.
>
>
>Actually, there is such a thing as a "universal" DLCI. PVO and I and a
>couple of other folks researched this thoroughly one Saturday a couple of
>years ago. It is an extension to the standard, and allows( going from memory
>here )  for an extended DLCI field that supports a 15 bit identifier. This
>means that a unique DLCI is assigned to every customer device in the cloud.

The DLCI field is actually infinitely recursively extensible, not 
just to 15 bits. But there's a reasonable question -- why try to make 
a connection-oriented L2 service do what IP or MPLS can do more 
flexibly?

>
>To my knowledge, no telco supports this, for a lot of reasons, not the least
>of which is the complexity and the lack of capacity to support end to end
>across several provider networks.


>
>An enterprise running it's own frame network, say using Stratacom equipment,
>for example, might find this of value.

How would this be superior to simply routing, where you have IP 
addresses?  I suppose that if you had the Stratacoms and couldn't 
afford to get rid of them...

>
>I've done a couple of quick looks on CCO and have not found any links. My
>recollection is that we researched outside of cisco to find the info, and
>there may be some links on CCO but my phrasing is not turning them up
>
>just another bit of pretty much useless information I've run across over the
>years. :->

The standards-speak is recursive extensibility, but I doubt Cisco 
supports it -- it doesn't solve problems for which there isn't a 
better solution.

People forget the origin of Frame Relay: it was intended as a 
low-speed access service to ATM.  The Gang of Four popularized it as 
a general interface, just as the ATM Forum popularized UNI.




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