Wow,
There are some big words being tossed around, I had to look
one up in the dictionary. I subscribe to this list for technical insight
from alot of people who are much smarter than I and willing to help because
that is the type of people they are. I never expected a vocabulary lesson to
boot, I learn something every time I take the time to read through this
list. The things being discussed such as certification values, salaries,
management styles etc. are all extremely subjective. I personally think it
is rare in this industry today to find a position where you as a network
professional are really a "valued" member of an organization. In most cases,
unless the core business is IT then we are considered overhead, in some
cases expensive overhead. Most managers I have worked for including my
present management have a very vague idea of what a CCIE is and absolutely
no clue what it takes to become one. For that matter, certifications period
are window dressing in their opinion. It used to be fairly common for
companies to encourage, reward and even fund technical training in pursuit
of XYZ certification because it was in their interest as well. I have not
had a manager in the last seven years who cared one way or the other if I
pursued a certification and to get him/her to pony up to pay for it...forget
it!! This industry has changed dramatically and has, but for a select few,
become every man for himself. There is no loyalty in either direction and
job security is now a buzzword for headhunters, it does not exist in most
corporations today. No sour grapes here, I just see it for what it is and
play my cards accordingly.
Best of look to all,
Regards,
Douglas Mizell
CCNP/CCDP
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> > Back in the days when baseball was understood to be the
> > ultimate expression
> > of American values, this may have been true. Take each
> > individual and weigh
> > his/her strengths and weaknesses, consider the overall value of
> > heir
> > contribution, and decide on that basis. These days, when
> > football is king,
> > what does that say about our values? That we are all
> > specialists and we are
> > all easily replaced. In fact, in a football model, the ideal is
> > to churn and
> > burn.
>
>While the game of baseball itself may in the past have neatly symbolized
>American individualism, ironically you wouldn't know it from the salaries
>paid to baseball players in those supposedly gloried old days. Before the
>days of free agency, players were paid far far less than they would have
>been paid in an open and free market. You'd think that if anybody would
>have understood the importance of providing proper compensation for
>individual performance in line with the spirit of the game of baseball, it
>would have been the baseball team owners themselves.
>
>But I digress...
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