""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
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> >Howard makes good points. Let me offer another view, perhaps more
> >mainline-business" oriented, vs. the very special requirements in
> >medicine (which I do appreciate -- I'm alive, thank you,
> >radiologist and surgeon).
> >
> >The increase in productivity due to wireless is believed to
> >come--and I can't be more specific than "believed" since I don't
> >know the quality of the supposed studies--from capturing value in
> >otherwise wasted time, and/or from making qualitative
> >improvements in the work environment, leading to more output from
> >the extant inputs. Whether it is a good idea in the long run to
> >capture the work that could be done when not at the desk (via
> >802.11 systems) has not been assessed; we are gathering much
> >empirical evidence, though ;-). Personally, the time away from
> >the desk is most useful to me--I decompress, and I think.
>
> Perhaps you have some perspective from your Air Force days on whether
> having constant communications available is, in fact, a good thing.
> My impression is that air traffic controllers, tactical controllers,
> etc., have enforced rest breaks, unless emergency conditions require
> otherwise.
>
> Wireless -- or perhaps more correctly, ubiquitous communiation (a
> term from Xerox PARC) -- may increase total production, but at what
> error rate? Does it result in quicker burnout?


I like Annlee's direction - just because I as a wireless user am more
productive, is there a hidden hit to the productivity of others? I.e. more
distractive noise in cubeland, higher support costs, both in terms of
infrastructure and help desk support ( more calls about connectivity
problems as I roam about, being "more productive"? )

There remains the bandwidth question. How much is enough. Check out the Long
Reach Ethernet presentation at

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/video_audio_archive/?video

about 3/4 down the page. seems like Cisco is saying that 5 megabits is more
than adequate for AVVID applications. which means that a reasonably well
thought out wireless infrastructure offers all that most organizations
require for such apps.



>
> Working at home, I used to keep a laptop in the bedroom, but I only
> do that now if I'm sick enough that I can't get downstairs to my
> office. I do keep a notepad, colored pens, etc., in the bedroom.
> Indeed, sometimes when I have creative/writers' block, it's very
> helpful for me to switch modes -- write rather than type. I will even
> do what I'll call Zen Design -- relax on the bed, thinking about a
> design problem, and even drift off to sleep -- and I'll very
> frequently wake up with a key insight.
>
> >
> >Improving the work environment qualitatively may be as simple as
> >giving people the chance to work while getting up and moving
> >around--not being chained to their plow, er, desk. If this makes
> >people more comfortable overall, the theory goes, all their work
> >will improve overall. Theory really is a wonderful thing, and
> >qualitative improvements do matter. Whether this is among the
> >ones which actually help is moot--I recall being grievously
> >annoyed in my cubicle days by people whose conversations made it
> >hard for me to work--getting their voicemail over a speakerphone
> >was a pet peeve. Someone walking around my work area chatting on
> >a portable phone could make me go postal if I need to concentrate
> >and can't.
> >
> >But, as Howard said, this is one of many potential tools in the
> >kit. In a sense, it may make our job harder, since we will need
> >to be able to recognize the appropriate tool to solve the
> >problem, which puts us squarely in the problem-recognition
> >business. And we may need to persuade customers they don't need
> >the gee-whizziest tool; the same amount of money could provide x,
> >y, and z, or they could simply spend less money. Probably not an
> >argument that will go over well in your present job, I know. But
> >I have a customer who keeps coming back--because I keep finding
> >him the most economical solution for the problems I've identified
> >which he is choosing to solve this month vs. deferring. Every bit
> >of business not deferred further comes back to me.
> >
> >But that's a long-term view again, and many businesses don't feel
> >they can take a long view; the stock market may punish them too
> >severely.
> >
> >Annlee
> >
> >Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter wrote:
> >>  ""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
> >>  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>>What's the medium cost between the two cities?  Can you use demand
> >>>circuits as a backup? Can you live with one more PVC and trust the
> >>>physical connection?  Is QoS-unpredictable cable or DSL available?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Funny you should ask this, Howard. I've been struggling for several
weeks
> >>  how to pose the question. Have we, the engineering / technical sales
> >  > community oversold the idea of dedicated bandwidth and QoS?
> >  >
> >>  Take, for example, wireless.
> >>
> >>  Wireless is essentially a step backwards. For years we have been
> convincing
> >>  customers to get rid of their hubs and move into a switched domain,
with
> >>  dedicated bandwidth for every user. This is often done in the name of
> >>  productivity. Fewer interruptions of data streams, meaning work
completed
> >>  faster.Now all the wireless vendors ( Cisco included ) are producing
> >studies
> >>  showing how wireless is increasing productivity to the tune of an hour
a
> >>  day. On a shared contention medium. Cisco will shortly release their
> >>  wireless telephone as part of their AVVID suite of products, competing
> with
> >>  the SpectraLink product that has been available for a couple of years.
> >>
> >>  All this gives one reason to re-evaluate what we have been told for
the
> >last
> >>  couple of years. a contention medium provides the means for greater
> >>  productivity?
> >>
> >>  You mention QoS in your response above. QoS is something being pushed
as
> >>  necessary for voice, video, and other delay sensitive traffic. Cisco
> >>  wireless AP's offer one way quasi QoS. Wireless, however, remains a
> >>  contention medium, and will remain so until the FCC changes the rules.
> I'm
> >>  not sure they will be able to release sufficient radio spectrum to
permit
> >>  all the bandwidth and services that wired can. But wireless is so damn
> >>  convenient!
> >>
> >>  I'm not suggesting that dedicated bandwidth to the desktop is a bad
thing
> >or
> >>  that there is not need for QoS. However, I'm wondering how all of us
> might
> >>  reconcile two seemingly opposed points of view regarding bandwidth and
> QoS
> >-
> >>  recognizing that wireless, whatever it's limitations, is here to stay,
> and
> >>  will become and remain essential to any and all networks, enterprise
or
> >>  small business, going forward.




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