Qwest PRN is a fully mesh IPSec (DES/3DES)(tunnel mode) based on Nortel
Shasta platform with classfull firewall similar to Checkpoint Firewall.
It can provide the QOS features such as DiffServ, Traffic Shaping,
Policing, etc...)

Qwest has provided Private Routed Network (PRN) Solution since December,
2000. The platform is currently very stable.

On the trunk side (backbone), the routing protocol is BGP, IS-IS and
OSPF
On the customer sides, the routing protocol is static, OSPF.  BGP will
be available in the future.

The customer circuit can be from 64K to OC-3.  MLPPP is also available.

If your corporate has about thousand sites (T1 and above) all around the
world (ASIA, Europe, North America) and your requirements are fully
mesh, 3DES IPSec Tunnel, OSPF routing, Classfull Firewall, QOS, remote
access VPN (Contivity - 3DES IPSec transport mode). Qwest is the only
Service Provider that currently offers these services.

C.Q.Nguyen
Former Qwest VPN Employee

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter van Oene
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Anyone using Qwest PRN ? [7:72704]

At 07:58 PM 7/21/2003 +0000, John Neiberger wrote:
>I think this actually is an MPLS VPN, of sorts. It's been fairly hard
for me
>to get the nitty gritty details. As I see it, it's a layer 3 MPLS vpn
with
>OSPF as our 'interface' to their network but I may be wrong about that.

This sounds exactly like a 2547bis based IP VPN.

>As someone else just mentioned, this service is expensive compared to
frame
>relay. In fact, at the moment it's about twice the monthly cost, but
we're
>quickly growing to a point where the frame network is not going to
support
>our goals. This solution looks pretty slick, I must admit.

Keep in mind that this solution involves the provider managing aspects
of 
your WAN routing which involves a different level of attention from them

then you would see with a traditional layer two network.  Usually, this 
type of service commands a premium, but the market tends to dictate
pricing 
in many areas (depending upon where you are located).

Pete


>John
>
> >>> Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter  7/21/03 1:50:51
>PM >>>
>so, John, whatever happened to the MPLS network they were trying to
sell
>you
>a while back? what advantage does PRN have vis a vis MPLS such that
Quest
>is
>no longer trying to convince you to buy it?
>
>inquiring minds need to know :->
>
>
>""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Peter van Oene wrote:
> > >
> > > At 04:31 PM 7/21/2003 +0000, John Neiberger wrote:
> > > >Are any of you using Qwest PRN? If so, I have a few questions
> > > for you:
> > > >
> > > >1. How do you like it so far?
> > > >2. Did you migrate from something else? If so, how did the
> > > migration go?
> > > >3. Any 'gotchas' that you learned later that you wish you'd
> > > learned sooner?
> > > >4. How does the service compare to what you were using before?
> > > >5. How many sites do you have? Is this solution scaling well
> > > for you?
> > >
> > > Hey John,
> > >
> > > What is PRN? Private routed network? Can't seem to find much
> > > about it in my
> > > brief googling.
> > >
> >
> > Oops. Accidentally hit post before adding any content.  ;-)
> >
> > Yes, it stands for Private Routed Network. It's a very interesting
>solution.
> > Our hub sites would participate in OSPF with their network, while
our
>spoke
> > sites would use static routing. The PRN would have static routes
pointing
>to
> > our spoke sites and those statics would be redistributed into OSPF.
> >
> > The biggest downside to this is that we'd have to contact Qwest each
time
>we
> > added a new subnet at a branch, but I suppose that just means we'd
need
>to
> > plan ahead better.
> >
> > This solution buys us a few things over our current frame relay
network.
> > Each site has a full pipe into the PRN instead of multiple PVCs
sharing a
> > single link, and we don't have to deal with CIR. From the
perspective of
>our
> > routers each site is one hop away from any other site. These
combination
>of
> > these features will allow us to proceed with VoIP throughout our
network,
> > which is not feasible with the current frame relay network.
> >
> > John




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