Here is what I think is the trick to understand Halabi: It is NOT for entry level people nor is it for people who use it as a study book for any exam.
That is why the book is called "Internet Routing Architectures" not "BGP cram session book for the CCXX exams"......The word Architectures should mean something, right? I have found out that the book really makes sense after you work with BGP in your job on a day-to-day basis. Atleast, it did for me and now I have read it many times and still refer to it once in a while, when I try to help some customers with their BGP configs and issues. Initially, I found it hard to comprehend so I do feel other's pain :-( Yes, please do not be so harsh about any author. Where in the book does it say that it should be used a study guide for any exam, even the CCIE is NOT mentioned. So how can you be so harsh about it. It is indeed called the Bible for a reason. And same of his OSPF design guide. I have used Caslow, Stewart, Halabi, Doyle and Parkhurst and best of all Cisco's BGP case studies. They are all good books/materials and should be used accordingly. As I always tell people, BGP is NOT for the faint-hearted :-) And, yes, the BGP beta exam was one of the most difficult exams that I took but managed to get a 857. Peace. No flames please !! Just my 2 cents!! CN >From: "John Neiberger" >Reply-To: "John Neiberger" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco BGP Exam [7:73516] >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 01:59:34 GMT > >Hmm...that's interesting. I found Halabit to be very easy to understand, but >that was after reading Stewart. Stewart's book is incredibly easy to >understand, especially considering how short it is. Quite concise, yet >readable. > >I have Doyle Vol. II but I stopped studying for attempt #2 before I got to >the BGP section. I should read through it as a refresher and to compare it >to Halabi. > >But Dre? Despise?? :-) That's pretty harsh! However, I guess I can >understand your point. BGP can be pretty easy to understand when it's >explained correctly, and can be very difficult to understand when explained >poorly. > >John > >""Pintens, Koen"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree with Dre > > I also got both books and Jeff Doyle's is so much easier to read and > > understand then Halabi's > > > > Koen Pinten > > Network Engineer > > > > CCNP CCDP MCSE MCSA MCDBA > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dre [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:55 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Cisco BGP Exam [7:73516] > > > > > > ""juniper"" wrote in message ... > > > > Can anyone recommend a good book for the BGP exam > > > > > > I personally despise Halabi's "authortative, the BGP-bible" IRA > > > book. It is awful. It is the sole reason nobody understands BGP. > > > It's confusing, boring, and downright awful to read and understand > > > such simple concepts. > > > > > > I passed the Cisco BGP exam (took the beta), and I did not even > > > open Halabi or Stewart (I do like Stewart, but for this exam, his > > > information is not really on-topic). > > > > > > Normally, I'd say read the RFC's, but they are also not going to > > > help you on this exam. > > > > > > I used > > > a) the outline provided by Cisco > > > b) Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP Routing Volume II (first 318 pages) > > > > > > Jeff Doyle is the master of routing protocols...this misconception > > > that Volume II was not as good as Volume I reminds me of 14 > > > year old pimply-faced kids arguing about Star Wars vs. Empire > > > or Matrix 1 vs. Matrix: Reloaded. These are all good movies... > > > however, Star Wars: Episode I and II are more remniscient of > > > Halabi....IMO. > > > > > > -dre > > > **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: > > > http://shop.groupstudy.com > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If > > you receive it in error: (i) you must not use, disclose, copy or retain > > it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then > > delete the emails. 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