Bingo! That's what I coudn't remember! it's got the procedures/
policies/specifications for all the security standards. remember the big
hubub about NT being C-2 security capable, The rainbow books define C-2.
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Subject: Re: US DOD. How do they do it?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:49:10 +0100
Thought it was the Rainbow Series.
Karl
& Yes Who Are You?
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Subject: RE: US DOD. How do they do it?
> Doesn't the DOD publish it's security protocols in a manual... I think
they
> call it the Red book? Check out www.sans.org, www.antionline.com,
> www.2600.org/com
>
>
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> From: "Johns, Andrew M ETC (CNE N654)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Johns, Andrew M ETC (CNE N654)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: US DOD. How do they do it?
> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:10:44 +0100
>
> What kind of name is that anyway?
> I do work for DOD and its not any real secret, our networks are
> internalized. We use NIPRNET SIPRNET. Nonclassified Internet Protocol
> Routed Network and Secret Internet Protocol Routed Network. (I could very
> well have some of the words wrong as I don't memorize it). Our
connections
> are to the NOCC, Network Operations Control Center. One in UK One in the
US
> (there are more but for simplicity...) The NOCC controls access of
NIPRNET
> to the "outside". SIPRNET never goes outside. You can't get in. Course
> anyone who wants in bad enough will figure it out, but I'm sure they have
> the biggest and baddest firewalls around.
> Interestingly, there are some efforts underway (and some commands have
done
> it) to go on the economy for internet service since its very slow on
NIPRNET
> sometimes and we are charged from our budget for the bandwidth used.
> My disclaimer is that I don't know ALL the details, this is my personal
> understanding of the BASIC operation. I don't know everything.
> I wrote this mostly for the group. Anything beyond this no one will get
> access to.
> What kind of name is that anyway? I think I would be embarrassed to use
> it....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cthulu, CCIE Candidate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: US DOD. How do they do it?
>
>
> May I suggest that in the future you take better steps to cover yourself?
> Do you really work at SITA-Societe Internationale de Telecommunications
> Aeronautiques?
>
> Au revoir!
>
> Charles
>
>
> ""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8qeduj$3ss$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8qeduj$3ss$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You have got to be kidding! What defence organization is this again?
> >
> > "Hi, I am friendly, please tell me your secrets! Also, can I have
your
> > credit card number as I have never seen a Visa card before?"
> >
> > Those folks that work in, for, around, over, under, and about DoD
> networks
> > are sworn to protect it, even after they leave. Not only legally, but
> > morally and out of loyalty to their country.
> >
> > I am forwarding your email to some folks that I think may be
interested
> in
> > it.
> >
> > Have a lovely day!
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
> > "wdwdawd wadwadad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Are there any listers with knowledge of Defense
> > > networks out there. I am working with a defence type
> > > organisation (western world; not saddam!) and need
> > > info on how the US DOD use cisco in their services.
> > >
> > > For example do they rely on cisco's implementation of
> > > IPSEC for non classified traffic or do they just send
> > > in the clear on a private network.
> > > Do they utilise public networks.
> > > Do they utilise THE public network eg VPNS to remote
> > > sites?
> > > Do they outsouce portions of there network for
> > > "connectivity only" and implement their own controlled
> > > security at higher layers?
> > >
> > > I guess the minimum level of security for even
> > > non-class info would be 3des and classified would be
> > > sent on a completely seperate hardware (kgxxx)
> > > encryption based network.
> > >
> > > Do they utilise the catalyst range of switches and if
> > > so how do they maintain high levels of security at
> > > layer 2. What stops the cleaner plugging in his
> > > lappie, dhcp'ing an address and shoot'n some nukes?
> > >
> > > Are there any US DOD public web pages on how they use
> > > cisco technology?
> > >
> > > There are many examples of other types of organisation
> > > (not in the killing industry) that also have a
> > > requirement for TOP SECRET levels of network security.
> > > Are there any public web sites with examples of
> > > implementations?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
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