/
I agree and disagree with you Ken.
Yes its the choices people make, ie, high-tech careers vs driving a truck.
However its the big money corporations that want to keep salaries down that 
lobby to bring in H-1Bs.

HOWEVER hope is not gone.  

XEROX has said it will not and does not hire any H-1Bs.  They believe that 
American companies should be hiring, and training if necessary, Americans.

Hopefully this will spread.
\



Quoting Kenneth Lorenzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I think it's your own career choices/skills that put you where you're at
> and
> not because some guy from some other country took your job.
> 
> "Crypto Byte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > To whom it may concern [namely you]:
> >
> > I personally don't have anything against these people [who ever the hell
> > they are] other than the fact they are ruining my life and the lives of
> > others, destroying my family, undermining the premise and foundation of
> > our [and other] career field[s], effecting the economic base of our
> > country [USA]; and, in general, starting to piss me off.
> >
> > Assuming you are not a H1-B, how do we stem the tide?
> >
> > If you are a H1-B, because you are ruining my life and the lives of
> > others, destroying my family, undermining the premise and foundation of
> > our [and other] career field[s], effecting the economic base of our
> > country [USA], please give me one non parasitic reason I should not feel
> > this way!
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
> 
> Hiring Foreign Tech Workers: In granting visas, Congress bowed to high-tech
> moneyHiring Foreign Tech Workers: In granting visas, Congress bowed to
> high-tech money
> greenspun.com : LUSENET : Grassroots Information Coordination Center (GICC)
> : One Thread
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
>   Why do we keep electing these people? They obviously no longer represent
> the interests of the American voter.
>   http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/09/27/text/p10s1.html
> 
>   Hiring Foreign Tech Workers
> 
>   In granting visas, Congress bowed to high-tech money
> 
>   The booming American high-tech industry, eager to fill jobs with workers
> it apparently cannot seem to find within US borders, will have its wishes
> granted again on Capitol Hill this week.
> 
>   Congress is finishing up a bill that will grant H1-B visas to some
> 200,000
> high-tech workers from overseas for the next three years. That's in
> addition
> to the existing half-million such workers already in the country. President
> Clinton apparently has given his support to the measure.
> 
>   Such generosity to one industry - albeit one driving the economy - is
> thanks largely to its increasing political clout. The industry gives
> campaign contributions to Democrats and Republicans in roughly equal
> amounts. The total will exceed $22 million this year, more than double the
> $8.9 million of four years ago.
> 
>   Also, Congress seems to have given up on the idea that low-tech American
> workers can quickly be taught how to make computer chips, write software,
> and perform other high-tech tasks.
> 
>   There are problems here. First, the bill is typical of the piecemeal
> approach to the larger issue of controls on immigration, both legal and
> illegal.
> 
>   Second, the quick passage of an H1-B bill in a crowded congressional
> calendar is being done without providing resources to retrain American
> workers or to encourage and recruit students into science and engineering.
> 
>   Critics were ignored in their charge that high-tech firms are not lacking
> for r�sum�s, but may only be short of younger workers willing to work for
> less money and longer hours.
> 
>   Any evidence to that effect was overridden by the assumption that the US
> companies need more foreign, low-wage workers to remain globally
> competitive. Congress also worried that many of the firms might just flee
> to
> low-wage countries.
> 
>   The industry claims it needs workers from India, China, and elsewhere who
> now earn up to 15 times less at similar high-tech jobs in their native
> countries. It also foresees a vacancy of 850,000 jobs in the years ahead.
> 
> 
>   Issues outstanding
> 
>   Some politicians tried to further tangle up the HB-1 legislation by
> asking
> to bring up other immigration causes.
> 
>   A few Democrats wanted to appease Hispanics who claim there is a
> double-standard in granting visas to high-tech workers while denying them
> to
> illegal immigrants already in the US.
> 
>   Some on the GOP side, meanwhile, wanted to make sure H1-B foreign
> professionals didn't directly take jobs away from American workers or force
> a lowering of salaries.
> 
>   One big issue the bill neglects is how to provide additional government
> services to this massive wave of high-tech immigrants.
> 
>   Nor does it beef up government monitoring of these "temporary" workers -
> many of whom will likely find a way to stay illegally in the US after their
> visas expire.
> 
>   It's disappointing that the bill has no sensible safeguards to protect
> American workers, such as a requirement that the companies pay a minimum of
> $40,000 a year to the foreign workers.
> 
>   And it's disappointing, too, that the Clinton administration, which often
> claims to be on the side of the American worker, has not seen fit to put
> modest regulations into effect that went along with the first passage of
> H1-B visas six years ago. One necessary rule is that high-tech firms make a
> good-faith effort to advertise for US workers before they hire from abroad.
> 
> 
>   A few recommendations
> 
>   A recent report on the H1-B issue by the General Accounting Office calls
> government efforts to date in question. The GAO says the H1-B program is
> open to abuse by companies for two reasons: (1) the Labor Department has
> limited legal authority to enforce the program and (2) weaknesses in
> enforcement by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
> 
>   The report goes on to offer worthy recommendations. They include:
> 
>   � That many companies in California's Silicon Valley be encouraged to
> move
> elsewhere in order to find more and less expensive workers. (Salaries in
> that high-tech corridor need to be three times the national average to keep
> up with housing prices.)
> 
>   � An income-tax credit that encourages employment in high-tech fields.
> 
>   As the world continues its march toward a global economy, a freer
> exchange
> of workers among countries is required.
> 
>   But let's hope the H1-B visa issue can be framed in a large scope of
> other
> immigration issues and a proper reeducation of American workers.
> 
> 
> 
>   -- K ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), September 28, 2000


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