Yeah - that's a good idea!!!

Change your website to one that is a shrine to the Cisco beverage!!! I bet 
that they won't complain... Remove all of the info that pertains to Cisco 
Systems - all of it - and replace it with pictures of the Cisco drink and 
anecdotes about what you did when you drank it...

Then tell the lawyers that you refuse to give up the domain, and tell them 
to examine the new content.

I'd like to see if they just drop this witch hunt if the content does not 
include them, or if they continue...


>From: "whatshakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "whatshakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:08:00 -0700
>
>It is not illegal to have the Cisco name in your domain name unless you use
>it for Cisco Systems content.  After all, there is a Cisco fish, drink, 
>city
>and kid to name just a few, and none of those are in violation of the Cisco
>Systems trademark.
>
>Tell them you'll hand it over for $10K or a free Catalyst 8500 if they want
>it that badly!  :-)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: DotCom CiscoSite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:25 PM
>Subject: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?
>
>
> > Dear All Cisco GroupStudy Members,
> >
> > I would like to thank the Cisco GroupStudy Mailing
> > List for the contribution on the Cisco Certification,
> > and for the information which is very useful, with
> > some have been put to my site: ciscosite.com.
> >
> > I have just received some messages stating that the
> > ciscosite.com should be handed over to Cisco because
> > of using the phrase "cisco" and because of the
> > attached reasons. Does anyone of you have the problem
> > like this, that the domain name should be handed over
> > to Cisco? I would like to know this further because
> > it's the only domain name I have ever registered right
> > now, and I have promoted it even in my namecards.
> >
> > And concerning this, I have replied to Brobeck that I
> > would better appeal this case to the GroupStudy first
> > before making any further steps. So all of your
> > suggestions are very expected.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your comments regarding this.
> >
> > With Sincerity,
> > Wisin
> > http://www.ciscosite.com
> >
> > Attached message:
> >
> > Dear Wisin,
> >
> > I will respond to your questions in turn.
> >
> > First, while we appreciate your stated willingness to
> > comply with Cisco's
> > requests, we note that the changes we have requested
> > have not been made to
> > your site to date.  Please ensure that these changes
> > are completed by
> > October 17, 2000.
> >
> > Second, the fact that a registrar permits registration
> > of a domain name has
> > no bearing on whether the domain name is in violation
> > of another party's
> > trademark rights.  Registrars do not make independent
> > determinations of the
> > propriety of a domain name registration; they simply
> > determine whether a
> > name has been registered previously.  The fact that
> > you actually registered
> > ciscosite.com does not give you the right to use
> > Cisco's trademark as part
> > of your domain name.
> >
> > Finally, Cisco does not provide compensation for the
> > discontinued use of a
> > domain name.  Cisco will provide you with compensation
> > for the actual cost
> > of transferring the domain name to Cisco, and will
> > permit you to use the
> > domain name for a limited period of time for the sole
> > purpose of informing
> > users of the address of your new website.  If you
> > intend to use the site
> > temporarily to direct people to your new site, please
> > commence this use
> > immediately and ensure that the site is taken down by
> > October 17, 2000.
> >
> > Thank you for your continued cooperation.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > BROBECK PHLEGER & HARRISON LLP
> > http://www.brobeck.com
> >
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