Common misunderstanding on the MSFCs and redundancy
(which is likely the issue here).

First, run 12.1.2(e) or better.
Second, follow these rules:

For installations where the 6500 switch provides core,
distribution and access layer functions, redundant
Supervisor engines with MSFCs are warranted. These
installations must adhere to the requirements dictated
by Cisco, including:
�       Same VLAN interfaces on both MSFCs 
�       All interfaces in same admin status - up/up 
�       Same routing protocols 
�       Same ACLs
 
The only differences, effectively, are:
 
�       HSRP standby 
�       IP address 
�       IP broadcast 
�       IPX helper 
�       IP default gateway 
�       IP route prefix mask 
�       IPX internal network 
�       IPX route

If you don't follow these rules the likelyhood of
HSRP, routing and ARP issues is high. The Cosmos IOS
appears to resolve some of these issues, but I would
not recommend it in production yet.

Hope this helps.


--- Rodgers Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stan,
> 
> Without seeing configs it's a little hard to
> diagnose, but two things come
> to mind.  Preempt on HSRP.  Are you using it? 
> Second, it sounds like you
> have layer two redunancy, so spanning tree should
> have a link in Blocking
> mode.  When you test a failure, this link will start
> forwarding (how quickly
> depends on a few things) so your HSRP may flap back
> and forth until things
> settle down(converge).  You need to use HSRP "track"
> to force the priorities
> to be correct in a failed state.  You may also need
> to tweek the HSRP
> timers.
> 
> I'm about to embark on a very large implementation
> just like you describe.
> I pray it goes smoothly.
> 
> Rodgers Moore
> 
> ""Rossetti, Stan"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote in message
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could someone tell me if they have seen this
> problem before or have any
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Scenario:
> >
> > We have 2 6509 switches with msfc cards in each on
> the 1st floor and 4th
> > floor of a building.  We have redundant links
> between the switches and
> each
> > switch has redundant sup 1 cards with the msfc
> blades.  We also have  2
> more
> > 6509 switches on the 2nd and 3rd floors of the
> same building.  The first
> > floor switch is connected to the outside world
> through a 7206 router.
> There
> > are multiple vlan across each switch that are
> connected to the user
> through
> > several 3500 series switches on each floor.  When
> we first turned HSRP on,
> > the msfc1 vlans did not come up.  We get Cisco
> online and they said we had
> a
> > bad msfc card.  So we switched over to the
> redundant msfc card (msfc2).
> The
> > vlans came up and hsrp between the switches was
> working (exchange hello
> > packets and send standby info).  Each vlan knew of
> the other vlan standby
> > router and ip address.  To run a test we disabled
> our connection to the
> > outside world to localize any problems and brought
> up continuous ping
> > sessions between the switches and vlans on the 1st
> and 4th.  Next we shut
> > down the 1st floor switch.  (Note: The 1st floor
> switch has the higher
> > priority).  The network went down and hsrp did no
> swap over to the standby
> > switch.  Additionally, when we disconnect the
> cable between the 1st floor
> > and 4th floor switch we see duplicate ip address
> errors.  We saw the same
> > duplicate ip errors the last time we disconnected
> the cable between the
> 1st
> > and 4th floor switches, but that was before we had
> hsrp installed.
> >
> > Some other useful info:
> >
> > About 3 weeks ago, before we installed the 1st
> floor switch the 4th floor
> > switch acted as the interface to the outside world
> through the msfc card
> > that cisco now says is bad.  Then we installed the
> 1st floor switch and
> move
> > all connections through the 1st floor switch. 
> Essentially the 1st floor
> > switch became the interface to the outside world
> with redundant link to
> the
> > 4th floor and 2nd floor switch.  When we did this
> the vlan could not talk
> to
> > each other.  Which means that we could ping the
> msfc card from the outside
> > world but not the 6509 switch.  Internally, we
> could ping the 6509 switch,
> > but not the outside world.  To isolate the problem
> we removed the
> connection
> > to the 1st and 4th floor switches like we did
> above and everything came
> up,
> > but we saw the same duplicate ip address errors. 
> We did a hardware reset
> of
> > the switch and reconnected the 1st and 4th floor
> switches and everything
> > started working correctly.  Any ideas?  This make
> no sense to me and
> > installing HSRP should not be an 8 ordeal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stan Rossetti
> >
> >
> > Russia Services Group
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> > Phone:  (256) 544-5031
> > Beeper:  544-1183 pin # 0112
> >
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