I'm not so sure, myself within 48 hours of updating my resume online to reflect my CCNA I received a job offer. Without having both certifications no one would talk to me about employment (this with 3 years experienceas a network admin/help desk)Of course when going for entry level positions it certainly helps if you are or can be mobile (i.e. have the ability to relocate). I moved to Kansas City to take a position working for Sprint on their ION platform as a Network Operations Specialist. I get to learn ATM, troubleshoot Nortel PVG's, Lucent Stinger DSLAMs, Cisco 12012GSR routers...etc... None of this would have been possible without my ability to move and my CCNA (having an MCP was an added bonus). Good Luck all looking for work (keep an eye on Sprint for openings BTW)and once again thanks to all on this who spend their own time to tutor those of who are climbing the ranks. Gragg Vaill MCP CCNA -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MCSE or CCNA or both [1:763] There is another forum here :Jobs@groupstudy. In the past days I remember seeing several postings of new CCNA holders who were not getting any job offers with their new certification. BUT who knows what THEIR experience overall was like?? I believe that from what I have seen a CCNA will NOT guarantee you a job (neither will an MCSE)and that in the end your all around knowledge/experience is what will count. Hiring managers are generally smart enough to know that just because someone has an MCSE or CCNA does not necessarily mean they can really do the job. Many conduct interviews with numerous technical questions to test your level of expertise. The best you can hope for is that the CCNA/MCSE will win you an interview. We all hope that a company will hire us and give us the opportunity to get the experience to warrant that high paycheck. If you find such a company please let me know as I will go work for them also. Of course if you have the experience to do MCSE and/or CCNA level work you can probably get along without either certification. T. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=1&i=877&t=763 -------------------------------------------------- You are reading GroupStudy's Associate Mailing List. To unsubscribe follow the directions on http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

