My wife doesn't know what I do either (other than the basic), but she says whenever I talk about it my eyes shine, and that it must be wonderful to like what you do so much... And that's all she needs. :-) Perhaps all you need to do is try explaining her what you do, so she sees your shinning eyes :-) If you check the archives, there are some articles mentioned, also packet magazine featured a couple good ones, one of them specifically talking about how hard it is to get the coveted # (and one that's below 8000, please). Try www.cisco.com/go/packet. Best of lucks. Francisco Muniz. _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

