Good answer, ElephantChild.

Also, the one I was thinking of was TFTP. With TFTP, when the client wants 
to download a file, it simply sends a Read Request. In the absence of any 
errors, the response from the server is the first block of data. Each block 
is acknowledged. The session ends when the server sends a block that is 
smaller than the default block size of 512 bytes. To send a file, the 
client sends a Write Request. The server sends an ACK, and then the client 
sends 512-byte blocks, each of which are acknowledged.

I'm not sure about NFS, which runs on top of Sun's RPC which is 
transaction-oriented. Hmmmmm. Yes, I think I do agree as I think more about 
it. There's no connection establishment, but data is acknowledged. Maybe 
NFS, RPC, SNMP, and DNS would all be considered transaction-based, which is 
sort its own category outside the basic categories of connection-oriented 
and connectionless.

Priscilla


At 03:36 AM 12/17/00, ElephantChild wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
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> > You're right, LLC Type 3 doesn't appear to be in the IEEE Logical Link
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> > Study question: are there any other examples of protocols that use
> > acknowledgements but don't require a connection establishment? I can think
> > of one that we use quite regularly...
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>Many client-server protocols fall in that category: DNS, NFS, RPC, SNMP,
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>OSPF does *not* fall in that category. The requirement for adjacency
>setup makes it a connection-oriented protocol IMHO.
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>--
>"Airplane travel is nature's way of making you look like your passport
>photo." --- Al Gore


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