I was contacted by a sales guy from knowledgenet.com who gave me a free
trial login to try their on-line training. It looked pretty good if you can
afford the $1,100.00 I believe he told me it would cost for six weeks access
(which could be extended after arrangement), but I still prefer books,
hands-on and research - that way I can spend $100.- on books and a grand for
a used router instead :-)

But, each individual have their own preferred way of learning the material,
so if someone has the $1,000.00 and already has a Stevie Ray Vaughan
signature Fender Stratocaster in their guitar collection, I would recommend
to contact knowledgenet.com and ask for a weeks trial access to their Cisco
training, which I'm sure they'll be happy to provide you with.

Please don't compile this message to a result where I am telling you that
knowledgenet.com is the best on-line place to gather Cisco training and
information - I personally like to use my membership at
certificationzone.com, cisco's website, and of course - this list.

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:02 AM
To: Steve Jacks; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Last Nights DC Cisco Meeting


FYI Knowledge Net appears to be the new name of Smartforce, a company that
makes a lot of CBT's for lots of different certifications.

The Knowledge Net home page carries the Cisco logo and claims it is a Cisco
training partner. I never had any contact with the senior management of the
firm, but I met some good folks a year ago when I was doing some Y2K
auditing in Scottsdale. At that time I looked over some of their CBT's and
was not particularly impressed. Haven't seen any of their new stuff.

So far in this thread I have seen some bizarre stuff - A Cisco vice
president publicly naming an individual that Cisco plans to sue,
mis-information about the URL of "Howard Berkowitz " web site...

I'm betting that someone with official capacity at Cisco is going to show up
here later today and "clarify" some things. :->

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Steve Jacks
Sent:   Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:37 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: Last Nights DC Cisco Meeting

I was there at the meeting last night.  The information at that meeting was
meant for training providers to watch out for what is posted.  I believe the
fact that the knowledge about who was being sued by Cisco was to remain
confidential.  Cisco is basically saying that you can publish information as
to the CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and CCDP but as for CCIE, you better stay away.
Cisco will use every legal means possible to keep the CCIE the black belt of
networking.

Also, they mentioned Howard Berkowitz website "knowledgenet.com" but he
didn't do all 168 violations.  They are going after all the CCIE authors on
the site. Howard is charging money for getting the information so he is
first on Cisco's list.

Steve Jacks, CCNA, CCDP
Bankok Instruction Center
A Certified Cisco Training Partner

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