I agree with you Bradley, well said.

A teacher once told me (back when the hot water wasn't invented yet) that
there were no such thing as stupid questions, and it's better to ask, than
to not because you don't want to look stupid.

Anyway, a punch-down block is one of those you almost for sure can find in
any office's phone closet. It's about the size of two cigarette packages on
top of each other and it has about 20 rows with 6 small metal pieces
sticking out. Each little metal piece has an opening in the middle that gets
narrower the closer you get to the block, and you insert your phone wires in
those pieces and 'punch' them down with a punch-down tool. That way, you can
setup your entire phone system with many lines and many phones without
having a big web of lines connected with each other with tape.

Now you can put that on your resume too :-)

Merry Christmas,

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 7:14 AM
To: cisco
Subject: Re: what is a CSU/DSU?


Folks, is it really necessary to pounce on someone for asking an occasional
"simple" question?  Okay, so CSU/DSUs are basic networking gear.  But guess
what: *none* of the CCNA material I studied ever went into any great detail
on what exactly this thing was or did, and coming from the technical
training side of the house never dealt with one until very recently.  Other
examples: I have no idea what a "punch-down block" or a "patch panel" is.
Maybe I've dealt with them before and would know if someone said "*That* is
a patch panel," but the fact is that most of the CC** materials only focus
on the routers and switches, and not so much on the peripheral yet essential
devices.

So, in other words, back off when someone asks a question you think is
"beneath" you or this group.  Just don't answer if you don't want to.  But
there are lots of valid, basic questions out there that yes, even CCNP/IE
candidates would like answers to.  It would be a shame if they felt they
weren't "allowed" to ask those questions here.

Sincerely,

Bradley J. Wilson
Who, despite being a CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT and CTT, does not
know what a punch-down block is.  Sue me.


----- Original Message -----
From: netlinesys
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 7:55 AM
Subject: re: what is a CSU/DSU?


Zhiping,

If u know the basic of networking , u can answer this question !!??
I found it difficult for CCNP candidate to ask this question.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zhiping Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:37 PM
Subject: what is a CSU/DSU?


> Hi,ciscoer:
>
> when I study cisco ccnp,
> I always find CSU/DSU,
> what are them?
> what are their use?
> Are they some kind of MODEM?
> thanks .
>



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