Why don't you post the configs?  Also send them to me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It sounds like a config problem.  Are you using dialer-watch?  What does
your dialer-list look like?  Do you have the "broadcast" keyword on your map
statements?  On both sides?

Kenny

""Frank Wells"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> You really need to downgrade both routers to be sure.
>
>
> >From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Frank Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: I'm stumped! (was EIGRP over ISDN) LONG
> >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:53:49 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Yes, we've tried 11.2(19), 12.0(14) and 12.1(5) on this end.  The remote
> >side has been on 12.0(5) the entire time and they are not able to change
at
> >this time.  Since it appears to be an issue with the timers, we can set
> >those with ios commands and hopefully alleviate the problem.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >John
> >
> > >  Have you tried downgrading IOS to a more experienced version, just to
> >see
> >if
> > >  your problem goes away?
> > >
> > >
> > >  >From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  >Reply-To: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  >Subject: I'm stumped! (was EIGRP over ISDN) LONG
> > >  >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:51:11 -0800 (PST)
> > >  >
> > >  >I'm reposting this in the hopes that someone who didn't see it
before
> >might
> > >  >have some ideas about this.  Heck, SWAGs, educated guesstimates, or
> > >  >telephone psychic impressions are also welcome.  We are completely
> >stumped
> > >  >about how to resolve this.  I've even posted this question on the
CCO
> >Q&A
> > >  >Forum but I don't think anyone has been answering questions on there
> > >  >lately.
> > >  >
> > >  >Here is the problem:  we have an ISDN BRI backup link between two
> >sites,
> >
> > >  >and
> > >  >we want to run eigrp over the link when it's in use.  The problem is
> >that
> > >  >even though the line is not flapping, eigrp is behaving as if it
were
> > >  >flapping.  My side NEVER sees hellos from the other side, but it
does
> > >  >receive updates.  The other side receives my hellos, but it thinks
the
> >link
> > >  >is bouncing and that my router is intermittently unavailable.  My
side
> > >  >never
> > >  >establishes the other as a neighbor.
> > >  >
> > >  >I've used every debugging command I can find to no avail.  Nothing
is
> > >  >giving
> > >  >me any information that I don't already know.  We have no access
lists
> > >  >configured, except for distribute lists but that shouldn't affect
> >neighbor
> > >  >relationships, should it?
> > >  >
> > >  >Here is sample debug output (debug eigrp neighbors and debug eigrp
> >packet):
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to up
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0:1,
changed
> > >  >state
> > >  >to up
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 67/0 idbQ 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 67/0 idbQ 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to
303xxxxxx
> > >  >theirrouter
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 67/0 idbQ 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 67/0 idbQ 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h:   AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 67/0 idbQ 0/0
> > >  >
> > >  >3d01h: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found
> > >  >
> > >  >Here is some info from the remote side:
> > >  >
> > >  >theirrouter#
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: Retransmission retry limit exceeded
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: Holdtime expired
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: Neighbor 10.120.226.1 went down on BRI0/0
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: New peer 10.120.226.1
> > >  >
> > >  >theirrouter#sho ip eigrp neighbors
> > >  >IP-EIGRP neighbors for process 2
> > >  >H   Address                 Interface   Hold Uptime   SRTT   RTO  Q
> >Seq
> > >  >                                         (sec)         (ms)
Cnt
> >Num
> > >  >0   10.120.226.1            BR0/0         12 00:00:38    0  5000  1
0
> > >  >
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: Retransmission retry limit exceeded
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: Holdtime expired
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: Neighbor 10.120.226.1 went down on BRI0/0
> > >  >1d02h: EIGRP: New peer 10.120.226.1
> > >  >
> > >  >I'm not getting any errors on the line, and further debugging (isdn
> >q921,
> > >  >isdn q931, ppp error, ppp auth, ppp neg, bri-interface) does not
show
> >any
> > >  >problems whatsoever.  I've tried ping tests with different payloads
> >and
> > >  >they
> > >  >succeeded wonderfully.
> > >  >
> > >  >I've also made sure that we are in the same 'AS'.  We are running
> >12.1(5)
> > >  >on
> > >  >a 2520, they run 12.0(5) on a 2524.  I've searched CCO for any
> > >  >configuration
> > >  >hints or bug reports, and I've read through Doyle's Routing TCP/IP
> >section
> > >  >on eigrp and I can find no possible explanation for this behavior.
> > >  >
> > >  >Any takers?  ideas?  hints?  tips?  Do you know a good psychic or
> >witch
> > >  >doctor?  Perhaps a good psychiatrist, instead?  :-)
> > >  >
> > >  >For anyone who has taken the time to read through all of this, I
thank
> >you.
> > >  >
> > >  >Regards,
> > >  >John
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
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